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DocKimbel 9-Jan-2013 [5249] | If we don't find any big drawback, I think I will implement it. |
Kaj 9-Jan-2013 [5250] | OK, thanks |
DocKimbel 11-Jan-2013 [5251] | Added routines invocation support to interpreter. |
Pierre 11-Jan-2013 [5252] | Congratulations: the rhythm of changes in Red is just fast! I scripted a little command that I run from time to time, just to see how both Rebol3 and Red are going: cd ~/dev/Red/ && git pull && cd && cd dev/r3/ && git pull And I can see through gitk that the rythm of Red's work is just amazing. Courage! |
DocKimbel 11-Jan-2013 [5253] | Merci Pierre ! :-) |
Pierre 11-Jan-2013 [5254] | De rien, merci à toi! I cannot really find a startup guide for Red: so, if no one shouts, I'll try to write one, during my long hours of flight next week. |
Kaj 11-Jan-2013 [5255] | That would be good |
Pierre 11-Jan-2013 [5256] | ok, then! |
DocKimbel 11-Jan-2013 [5257x3] | Pierre, have you scrolled down throw this page: https://github.com/dockimbel/Red ? |
through | |
Let me know if there are missing information there. | |
Pierre 11-Jan-2013 [5260] | I had read another version of these instructions; it looks like it was reworked a bit. |
DocKimbel 11-Jan-2013 [5261] | Yes it was, the Red/System README was merged in Red's one. |
Pierre 11-Jan-2013 [5262x3] | I looked into the docs subdirectory, ran rebol makedoc2.r It made red-system-quick-test.html, but then I got my eyes sore with the black background, so I wanted the light version, clicked and ... oops: Firefox ne peut trouver le fichier à l'adresse /home/pierre/heaume_pierre/developpt/Red/docs/$LIGHT$. |
I found a reference to $LIGHT$ at the bottom of red-system-quick-test.txt , in what looks like a rebol script below a make-doc document. | |
REBOL [] do/args %makedoc2.r 'load-only doc: scan-doc read file: system/options/script set [title out] gen-html/options doc [(options)] file: last split-path file replace file ".txt" ".html" file2: copy file insert find file2 "." "-light" replace out "$DARK$" file replace out "$LIGHT$" file2 write file out replace out "dark.css" "light.css" write file2 out | |
DocKimbel 11-Jan-2013 [5265] | Makedoc format allows the addition of REBOL code at the end. The proper way to generate the doc files is to CD to the folder, then run REBOL on %red-system-quick-test.txt |
Pierre 11-Jan-2013 [5266] | ok |
DocKimbel 11-Jan-2013 [5267] | BTW, you can find these documentations already generated online here: http://www.red-lang.org/p/documentation.html |
Pierre 11-Jan-2013 [5268] | Isn't it a bit dark?... |
GrahamC 11-Jan-2013 [5269] | It's to save power ... fewer photons emitted |
DocKimbel 11-Jan-2013 [5270] | What? The site or the docs? |
Pierre 11-Jan-2013 [5271x3] | ;-) the site emits too few photons |
to my taste... | |
Something that I miss, from this doc page, would be a "getting started" with a step-by-step guide to start coding in Red | |
GrahamC 11-Jan-2013 [5274] | Red on black is just nearly invisible. |
DocKimbel 11-Jan-2013 [5275] | Well, I try to switch to dark themes to both save powers and my eyes. ;-) I've provided a switching option to more classical "light" theme for the docs, but doing the same for the web site was too much work for me, so I've left it with the dark theme only. I will fix that once we get a new web site for Red (or if someone skilled enough can make the changes, I'll be glad to push them online). |
Pierre 11-Jan-2013 [5276x2] | yes; and white on black with my firefox fonts is quite painful. I have a nuclear power plant nearby, providing enough electrons moving, so that I can afford to waste a few photons... |
don't worry about this... just a detail | |
DocKimbel 11-Jan-2013 [5278] | Graham: it renders well here, but I don't use Clear Type. I plan to make some typographic changes to the blog anyway to make it more easily readable, I'll see if I can improve the rendering of red text parts. |
Pierre 11-Jan-2013 [5279] | Actually, it is better on an LCD display, than on my old CRT. |
DocKimbel 11-Jan-2013 [5280x2] | I've trashed my last CRT in 1997. ;-) |
Actually, if some people want to tweak the CSS for the Red blog to make it more readable, I'll be glad to review and push the changes if I'm fine with them. | |
GrahamC 11-Jan-2013 [5282] | Can you add a link to the makedoc files on each html page? |
DocKimbel 11-Jan-2013 [5283x2] | There is no makedoc files, I'm using the Blogger platform (Google). Unfortunately, a bad choice, it is an awful blogging platform, the only part that doesn't suck is the Google Analytics integration. |
You can just use Firebug or the developer mode from your browser to retrieve the CSS files. | |
GrahamC 11-Jan-2013 [5285] | Oh ... |
Pierre 11-Jan-2013 [5286] | I've tried playing with the background in the CSS, but it is not really convincing... I got a dark red, which looks more like vomi d'ivrogne... |
Bo 11-Jan-2013 [5287] | Off-topic warning: I know most of you know this, but for any noobs that come along: With LCDs and LEDs, the number of photons remains constant no matter the color scheme as the LCD/LED layers just filter out the light that is already generated by the backlight. Some advanced screens will dim the backlight to the intensity of the brightest pixel, but these screens aren't as common. |
DocKimbel 11-Jan-2013 [5288] | vomi d'ivrogne Isn't that shade of red color better known as "Bordeau". ;-) |
Pierre 11-Jan-2013 [5289x2] | yes, sort of... |
you are more poetic than I am... | |
GrahamC 11-Jan-2013 [5291] | Regarding docs, the issue for me, and perhaps others, is that reading html on your portable device requires an internet connection. So, an offline version such as epub or pdf is an advantage |
DocKimbel 11-Jan-2013 [5292] | Bo: ah thanks...then it is just for the eyes. ;-) |
GrahamC 11-Jan-2013 [5293] | I do a lot of reading on an itouch ( should upgrade to something bigger ) |
Pierre 11-Jan-2013 [5294] | GrahamC: yes, I totally agree. I am quite often out of Internet connexion for long periods, so I do appreciate long html pages that I can save, rather than bunches of small html pages. A large pdf is even better. Or a large .txt file, actually. |
DocKimbel 11-Jan-2013 [5295x2] | Well, all the existing Red docs are on github, so feel free to add PDF generation, I will gladly add them to the web site. |
I'm not sure the Makedoc version I'm using supports PDF export though...it might need an upgrade to MD3. | |
Pierre 11-Jan-2013 [5297] | all the existing Red docs are on github => is that what is in Red/docs ? |
GrahamC 11-Jan-2013 [5298] | Is there a MD3 that is OS? |
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