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[#Red] Red language group
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DocKimbel 9-Mar-2013 [6184] | Great! |
Kaj 9-Mar-2013 [6185] | Well, I haven't used that in many years. I would like it to work with 2.7.8 |
DocKimbel 9-Mar-2013 [6186x2] | Have you tested with Core 2.7.8? |
I only trust 2.7.6 for my production code, I had too many weird behaviors and bugs in 2.7.8. 2.7.6 has some bugs too, but at least I can spot them easily and it seems to much more stable overall than 2.7.8. | |
Kaj 9-Mar-2013 [6188x2] | Same issue |
2.7.6 and 2.7.7 have problems, especially in View, that make them unstable on Linux. I'm using 2.7.8 in Syllable | |
DocKimbel 9-Mar-2013 [6190] | 2.7.7 is definitely a no-go. |
Kaj 9-Mar-2013 [6191x2] | It works fairly well for me |
Red works OK on those versions, except this problem | |
DocKimbel 9-Mar-2013 [6193x2] | I have never tested deeply View on non-Windows platforms, as I never needed it for my production code. |
I will give it a look tomorrow testing with 2.7.8. | |
Kaj 9-Mar-2013 [6195x2] | Thanks |
Make sure not to change anything, as any shift in the code makes the problem go in hiding | |
DocKimbel 9-Mar-2013 [6197] | In case, some of you are interested in a more detailled view of Red's roadmap, I've started using Trello for keeping track of current and future tasks. I've just started adding stuff, I have many more things to put there. Here's the URL: https://trello.com/board/red-programming-language/51387ada4e1ba9b86b001141 |
Kaj 9-Mar-2013 [6198] | I'm getting a blank page with just a header bar |
DocKimbel 9-Mar-2013 [6199x2] | Ah...let me see... |
Try with this link: https://trello.com/b/FlQ6pzdB | |
Kaj 9-Mar-2013 [6201] | Redirects to same, with same result |
DocKimbel 9-Mar-2013 [6202] | The board is public, it should be visible to anyone... |
Kaj 9-Mar-2013 [6203] | It isn't |
BrianH 9-Mar-2013 [6204x2] | I'm going to extend https://github.com/BrianHawley/rebol-patches to R2, taking the R2/Forward stuff that made it into 2.7.8 and retrofitting it into older R2 versions, plus any fixes to 2.7.8 that we can manage. That should make it easier to use 2.7.6 or even earlier versions. |
Not today, but it's the plan. | |
DocKimbel 9-Mar-2013 [6206x2] | Kaj: do you see the content there: http://transmog.net/iphone-simulator/mobile-web-browser-emulator-for-ipad-2.php?u=https://trello.com/board/red-programming-language/51387ada4e1ba9b86b001141 |
It's a web proxy, you can surf the site from there. | |
Kaj 9-Mar-2013 [6208] | No, same bar. And the URL printed outside the address bar |
DocKimbel 9-Mar-2013 [6209x2] | Hmm, so not a web proxy... |
Do you have JS disabled? | |
Kaj 9-Mar-2013 [6211] | Yes |
DocKimbel 9-Mar-2013 [6212] | To use Trello, please enable JavaScript. |
Kaj 9-Mar-2013 [6213] | I don't see that |
DocKimbel 9-Mar-2013 [6214] | I've seen it there: https://www.megaproxy.com/go/_mp_framed?https://trello.com/board/red-programming-language/51387ada4e1ba9b86b001141 |
Kaj 9-Mar-2013 [6215x3] | If I go to syllable.org in the emulator, our site flashes by and then that screen goes blank, too, so that emulator is broken, too |
That proxy doesn't work at all | |
I'm fairly sure this will all go away if I enable cookies, but I don't want to let all those sites install cookies, without choice and without telling at that | |
BrianH 9-Mar-2013 [6218] | I think the window can be hidden, it might be worth checking. |
Kaj 9-Mar-2013 [6219x2] | You mean the SDL program? Yes, the window is already hidden, but if I try it on Linux I do get a task bar icon |
Measures could be taken to close the window sooner, but it's not worth it just for the example | |
Endo 10-Mar-2013 [6221] | Trello is a very good choice, so anyone can see what is on the list easily. I use it for my work and personal lists. There is Android app too. |
DocKimbel 10-Mar-2013 [6222] | Kaj: do you have multiline input support in your console-pro version? |
Marco 10-Mar-2013 [6223] | I suggest to change the relaive part of "Readme.md" to: Running the Red/System hello script ------------------------ 1. From the REBOL console type: `call/show ""` ; (type this only once to fix Rebol 2 bug) `change-dir %red-system/` 2. Type: `do/args %rsc.r "%tests/hello.reds"` the compilation process should finish with a `...output file size` message. 3. The resulting binary is in `red-system/builds/`, go try it! type (on Windows): `call/wait/shell/console %builds/hello.exe` |
Arnold 10-Mar-2013 [6224] | Tell the Red interpreter "find a slash" and it finds one, Now that's programming computers! Hurray for file! support! |
DocKimbel 10-Mar-2013 [6225x5] | Right, it could teach Rebolbot a few tricks. ;-) |
Marco: thanks for the proposition. Exposing Rebol bug in the first commands that a new user has to type to run Red compiler, is really not appealing. | |
Also, this bug occurs only on Windows, so having users from other platfomrs type it too is overkill. I would like to reduce the steps and commands to type for running the Red(/System) compiler (especially for the first time), not increase them. | |
Fortunately, these steps are temporary, once we get the compiler encapped, it should be a one-liner. | |
Kaj, about relaxing errors in interpreter (avoiding quiting), it is easy to achieve (just remove the `halt` found in interpreter and %context.reds), but it is problematic because letting these errors pass will let the Red stack in an invalid state which will often result in subsequent crashes (until we add proper error support in Red). So, I propose an alternative solution: add VALUE? (and maybe other natives if required), to allow you to validate the input before DOing it. What do you think? | |
Kaj 10-Mar-2013 [6230x4] | Would that work on LOAD? |
Can't you just return unset! from an undefined path, like for an undefined word? | |
I suppose the ReadLine library I use in console-pro can be programmed for multi-line input, but I don't know how, so it currently takes single lines | |
On Windows, it works the same as yours | |
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