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[#Red] Red language group

Kaj
10-Mar-2013
[6233x6]
On Windows, it works the same as yours
Endo, people without cookies can't see anything on Trello
red>> [w:]
== 
*** Runtime Error 1: access violation
*** at: 084980F3h
Oh, that's probably the missing load/all
Yes, but:
red>> do [w:]
== 
*** Runtime Error 32: segmentation fault
*** at: 096F70F2h
DocKimbel
11-Mar-2013
[6239x2]
I get here:

red>> do [z:]
==
*** Script error: action 6 not defined for type: 0
Can't you just return unset! from an undefined path, like for an 
undefined word?

I will give it a try.
Pekr
11-Mar-2013
[6241]
Nenad - Happy Birthday to you, and so to your brain-child - Red :-)
DocKimbel
11-Mar-2013
[6242]
Thanks Peter! :-)
Gregg
11-Mar-2013
[6243]
If it's Doc's birthday, we should give him a present and donate to 
his child's future. 

Happy Birthday Doc.
Henrik
11-Mar-2013
[6244]
HBD, doc. :-)
DocKimbel
11-Mar-2013
[6245]
Thanks guys! :-)
NickA
11-Mar-2013
[6246]
Made a little donation - happy birthday!
Pekr
11-Mar-2013
[6247]
I will donate in few days, once my salary arrives :-)
Gregg
11-Mar-2013
[6248]
Remember, I'm matching donations, birthday or not, until the end 
of the month, so Doc gets double presents.
DocKimbel
11-Mar-2013
[6249]
Nick: got it, thank you very much!
Endo
11-Mar-2013
[6250]
Happy Birthday Doc!
Kaj
11-Mar-2013
[6251]
I thought it was last month, Doc, but if it was today, happy birthday!
DocKimbel
11-Mar-2013
[6252]
Thanks!
Kaj
11-Mar-2013
[6253x4]
With the latest version, I still get
red>> do [z:]
== 
*** Runtime Error 1: access violation
*** at: 0851C0F3h
That's in console-pro. Oddly, in your console, it indeed gives the 
action error
Would it be hard to have the undefined warnings print the name of 
the undefined word/path?
DocKimbel
11-Mar-2013
[6257x2]
Actually, that's part of error! handling, I can't do it right now 
it would delay the release too much...
I can have a quick look at it though, if it's just a few lines of 
code, I'll add it.
BrianH
11-Mar-2013
[6259]
Doc, what is your opinion about what FOR and FOREACH should do for 
the obviously never advancing case? Error triggered or nothing done?
DocKimbel
11-Mar-2013
[6260x2]
Is there a CC ticket about that?
At first look, I'd say nothing done as it can be useful to disable 
a code block in a loop passing 0 as looping number (or empty block 
in case of FOREACH).
Kaj
11-Mar-2013
[6262]
Are we talking about never advancing or never executing?
BrianH
11-Mar-2013
[6263x2]
Never executing. Never advancing means executing endlessly.
That method of disabling a loop block would be in addition to passing 
none as the data (for foreach)?
Kaj
11-Mar-2013
[6265x2]
In that case, it seems obvious to me to do nothing. That's a regular 
construct in programs
red>> do *
Error: feature not implemented yet!
bash-4.0#
DocKimbel
12-Mar-2013
[6267x2]
I tried avoiding the error propagatin, but it's too complex, so it 
will stay as is until error! is implemeted.
The changes I made in the interpreter for not exiting the console 
on errors have a very bad side-effect: some errors are passing silently 
through the unit tests and are not reported! :-/
Kaj
12-Mar-2013
[6269]
Hm, well, I suppose it's good practice for implementing error! ;-)
DocKimbel
12-Mar-2013
[6270x2]
I can't on error! until next week, my planning is full.
<work>
Kaj
12-Mar-2013
[6272x2]
This one has an assortment of effects:
red>> do [z:]
== 
*** Runtime Error 23: illegal operand
*** at: 09DB50F2h
DocKimbel
12-Mar-2013
[6274]
I simply get an "*** Script error: action..." message here.
Kaj
12-Mar-2013
[6275x3]
Again, in console-pro
red>> load x 
*** Error: word has no value!

*** Runtime Error 1: access violation
*** at: 08079DD7h
red>> load x/y
*** Error: word in path has no value!

*** Runtime Error 1: access violation
*** at: 08079DD7h
DocKimbel
12-Mar-2013
[6278x3]
Kaj, I'm really don't see this approach working. The HALTs in the 
runtime code *do* have a purpose, they protect the user from running 
its code after an error that sets the stack in an undetermined state. 
It's a (temporary) protection barrier until we have proper error 
handling. Removing them will just make me chase false errors.  I 
can't patch the whole runtime code to make it look like it has error 
recovering while it has not...
I told you that the cleaner option would be: write a input data validation 
routine to, at least, catch those undefined words.
I think I'll put the HALT back to avoid making the runtime code unstable 
(and avoid those nasty silent errors in unit tests).
Kaj
12-Mar-2013
[6281x2]
I have no idea what you're talking about. What approach? What HALTS? 
What input validation?
I'm just reporting crashes that I observe