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Kaj 10-Mar-2013 [6234x5] | Endo, people without cookies can't see anything on Trello |
red>> [w:] == *** Runtime Error 1: access violation *** at: 084980F3h | |
Oh, that's probably the missing load/all | |
Yes, but: | |
red>> do [w:] == *** Runtime Error 32: segmentation fault *** at: 096F70F2h | |
DocKimbel 11-Mar-2013 [6239x2] | I get here: red>> do [z:] == *** Script error: action 6 not defined for type: 0 |
Can't you just return unset! from an undefined path, like for an undefined word? I will give it a try. | |
Pekr 11-Mar-2013 [6241] | Nenad - Happy Birthday to you, and so to your brain-child - Red :-) |
DocKimbel 11-Mar-2013 [6242] | Thanks Peter! :-) |
Gregg 11-Mar-2013 [6243] | If it's Doc's birthday, we should give him a present and donate to his child's future. Happy Birthday Doc. |
Henrik 11-Mar-2013 [6244] | HBD, doc. :-) |
DocKimbel 11-Mar-2013 [6245] | Thanks guys! :-) |
NickA 11-Mar-2013 [6246] | Made a little donation - happy birthday! |
Pekr 11-Mar-2013 [6247] | I will donate in few days, once my salary arrives :-) |
Gregg 11-Mar-2013 [6248] | Remember, I'm matching donations, birthday or not, until the end of the month, so Doc gets double presents. |
DocKimbel 11-Mar-2013 [6249] | Nick: got it, thank you very much! |
Endo 11-Mar-2013 [6250] | Happy Birthday Doc! |
Kaj 11-Mar-2013 [6251] | I thought it was last month, Doc, but if it was today, happy birthday! |
DocKimbel 11-Mar-2013 [6252] | Thanks! |
Kaj 11-Mar-2013 [6253x4] | With the latest version, I still get |
red>> do [z:] == *** Runtime Error 1: access violation *** at: 0851C0F3h | |
That's in console-pro. Oddly, in your console, it indeed gives the action error | |
Would it be hard to have the undefined warnings print the name of the undefined word/path? | |
DocKimbel 11-Mar-2013 [6257x2] | Actually, that's part of error! handling, I can't do it right now it would delay the release too much... |
I can have a quick look at it though, if it's just a few lines of code, I'll add it. | |
BrianH 11-Mar-2013 [6259] | Doc, what is your opinion about what FOR and FOREACH should do for the obviously never advancing case? Error triggered or nothing done? |
DocKimbel 11-Mar-2013 [6260x2] | Is there a CC ticket about that? |
At first look, I'd say nothing done as it can be useful to disable a code block in a loop passing 0 as looping number (or empty block in case of FOREACH). | |
Kaj 11-Mar-2013 [6262] | Are we talking about never advancing or never executing? |
BrianH 11-Mar-2013 [6263x2] | Never executing. Never advancing means executing endlessly. |
That method of disabling a loop block would be in addition to passing none as the data (for foreach)? | |
Kaj 11-Mar-2013 [6265x2] | In that case, it seems obvious to me to do nothing. That's a regular construct in programs |
red>> do * Error: feature not implemented yet! bash-4.0# | |
DocKimbel 12-Mar-2013 [6267x2] | I tried avoiding the error propagatin, but it's too complex, so it will stay as is until error! is implemeted. |
The changes I made in the interpreter for not exiting the console on errors have a very bad side-effect: some errors are passing silently through the unit tests and are not reported! :-/ | |
Kaj 12-Mar-2013 [6269] | Hm, well, I suppose it's good practice for implementing error! ;-) |
DocKimbel 12-Mar-2013 [6270x2] | I can't on error! until next week, my planning is full. |
<work> | |
Kaj 12-Mar-2013 [6272x2] | This one has an assortment of effects: |
red>> do [z:] == *** Runtime Error 23: illegal operand *** at: 09DB50F2h | |
DocKimbel 12-Mar-2013 [6274] | I simply get an "*** Script error: action..." message here. |
Kaj 12-Mar-2013 [6275x3] | Again, in console-pro |
red>> load x *** Error: word has no value! *** Runtime Error 1: access violation *** at: 08079DD7h | |
red>> load x/y *** Error: word in path has no value! *** Runtime Error 1: access violation *** at: 08079DD7h | |
DocKimbel 12-Mar-2013 [6278x3] | Kaj, I'm really don't see this approach working. The HALTs in the runtime code *do* have a purpose, they protect the user from running its code after an error that sets the stack in an undetermined state. It's a (temporary) protection barrier until we have proper error handling. Removing them will just make me chase false errors. I can't patch the whole runtime code to make it look like it has error recovering while it has not... |
I told you that the cleaner option would be: write a input data validation routine to, at least, catch those undefined words. | |
I think I'll put the HALT back to avoid making the runtime code unstable (and avoid those nasty silent errors in unit tests). | |
Kaj 12-Mar-2013 [6281x3] | I have no idea what you're talking about. What approach? What HALTS? What input validation? |
I'm just reporting crashes that I observe | |
Is there any point to continuing testing at the moment? I'm not sure now what reports you want | |
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