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Gregg 26-Mar-2013 [6665x2] | It can be, but it's also the standard abbreviation for duplicate. |
I'll let Doc say if it's for humans for users. | |
DocKimbel 26-Mar-2013 [6667x5] | ROUND: a bit premature, we still don't have a float type in Red. |
Or you mean doc-string: sure you can. | |
Forth and RPL (I've done a lot of code in RPL long time ago) use DUP as abbreviation for "duplicate". | |
I see no need to make arbitrary changes from Rebol unless we have something to gain. | |
(Bookmark it, you might throw at me that quote someday in the future after I make a purely subjective and arbitrary change from Rebol. ;-)) | |
Kaj 26-Mar-2013 [6672] | version.r seems to be missing from the repository |
DocKimbel 26-Mar-2013 [6673] | https://github.com/dockimbel/Red/blob/master/version.r |
Kaj 26-Mar-2013 [6674] | Sorry, it's probably missing from my build recipe |
Gregg 27-Mar-2013 [6675] | Has anyone tried APPEND/DUP? red>> s: copy "" == "" red>> red>> append/dup s #" " 10 == 10 red>> s == " " red>> head s == " " |
PeterWood 27-Mar-2013 [6676x7] | red>> s: copy "" == "" red>> append/dup s #"1" 10 == "1111111111" red>> length? s == 10 red>> s == "1111111111" |
There aren't any tests of refinements to append yet. I'll start an append-tests.red file for them inlcuding your 10 spaces test Gregg. | |
It appears that the problem is only appending spaces to a null string. it seems okay appending 10 spaces to a space. red>> length? append/dup " " #" " 10 == 11 | |
The issue seems to be with the console as the tests work in both the compiler and the interpreter. | |
The issue seems to be with the console as the tests work in both the compiler and the interpreter. | |
Sorry for the double posting. | |
Actually, Gregg's test works under OS X: Schulz:Red peter$ ./console -=== Red Console alpha version ===- (only Latin-1 input supported) red>> s: copy "" == "" red>> append/dup s #" " 10 == " " red>> length? s == 10 | |
sqlab 27-Mar-2013 [6683] | works under WinXP too red>> append/dup s: copy "" #" " 10 == " " red>> length? s == 10 red>> |
DocKimbel 27-Mar-2013 [6684] | Works here from Win7 too. |
Ladislav 27-Mar-2013 [6685x3] | 'For MOLD/ALL, are you calling it "serialized" format in Red? And I assume that's a TBD at this point.' Gregg, suggested reading: http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/REBOL_Programming/mold |
'No: without /ALL: "source" format, /ALL: "loadable" format?' - /ALL has a totally different meaning for LOAD than for MOLD, BTW | |
See also http://issue.cc/r3/1955 | |
DocKimbel 27-Mar-2013 [6688] | Your "construction syntax" is a bit long but accurate and meaningful naming. |
Ladislav 27-Mar-2013 [6689x3] | Not exactly mine (to not take credits for something I did not invent), but I am promoting it is meaningful. |
err: "as meaningful" | |
copying: http://issue.cc/r3/2006 | |
DocKimbel 27-Mar-2013 [6692] | Saw it in R3 group. It's a nice trick, but don't you think that the setword used in such place might confuse readers? (at first look, I read [i: 100]...) |
Ladislav 27-Mar-2013 [6693x2] | We shall se what the preferences are... |
(At least I hope so) | |
DocKimbel 27-Mar-2013 [6695] | Using [i:] instead of i: would remove the possible confusion, but it looks a bit inelegant. |
Pekr 27-Mar-2013 [6696] | Wouldn't it look confusing, if one would like (not sure anyone would to :-) to use something like: repeat i: j: 10 [print [i j]] |
Ladislav 27-Mar-2013 [6697] | confusing? hmm, you can use parentheses to make it more readable: repeat i: (j: 10) [...] if you prefer |
Pekr 27-Mar-2013 [6698] | that's right ... I would understand the code even without parentheses, I think .... |
Gregg 27-Mar-2013 [6699x7] | Append/dup, thanks all for testing. Not sure how I could have broken anything by just adding doc strings to boot.red, but it's not just spaces for me here (Win7): red>> s: copy "" == "" red>> append/dup s #"1" 10 == 10 red>> s == "1" red>> length? s == 1 |
I will have to test more. If I just paste the original append source into the console (i.e. all doc strings removed), calling append then crashes. | |
If I rebuild the console with the version of append that has no doc strings, it works fine. Interesting. | |
It's having the doc string on the /dup refinement itself that causes it. | |
Take that out and it works fine. | |
It looks like that 's the case for all refinements that take an arg. If you have a doc string before the arg, it causes the arg to be ignored. | |
Can someone please confirm? | |
DocKimbel 27-Mar-2013 [6706] | Testing with a string! between a refinement and its argument, I get odd results (but no crashes so far). Definitely a bug. |
Gregg 27-Mar-2013 [6707] | Do you want a bug report, or have you logged it yourself? |
DocKimbel 27-Mar-2013 [6708] | We need a bugtracker entry for this one, if you're on it, please add it. |
Gregg 27-Mar-2013 [6709] | red>> get 'x red>> type? get 'x == red>> print type? get 'x unset The second result is the one in question. |
DocKimbel 27-Mar-2013 [6710x3] | Odd...please add it to the bugtracker. |
Hmm, I get correct result here: red>> get 'x red>> type? get 'x == unset! | |
Probably an interference from doc-strings like for APPEND. | |
Gregg 27-Mar-2013 [6713] | Could be. |
DocKimbel 27-Mar-2013 [6714] | After pulling your doc-strings locally and recompiling the console I get the same output as you. |
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