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DocKimbel 27-Mar-2013 [6715] | I need to fix that issue asap, before getting flooded with new tickets. :) |
Gregg 27-Mar-2013 [6716] | :-) |
DocKimbel 27-Mar-2013 [6717] | But I need to go to dinner now, so it will have to wait a bit. |
Oldes 27-Mar-2013 [6718x3] | How to create a routine which would accept any-type? |
I was trying: r: routine [value [any-type!]][] but got error like: *** Compilation Error: invalid definition for function exec/r: [value [red-any-value!]] | |
sorry... *** Compilation Error: invalid definition for function exec/r: [value [red-any-type!]] | |
PeterWood 27-Mar-2013 [6721] | The commit to introduce the doc-strings seems to have caused a number of tests to fail, a few in the compiler tests but a much bigger number in the interpreter tests. For example: ok - serialization....................275 / 275 ** - interpreter-serialization*********11 / 275 ** |
Gregg 27-Mar-2013 [6722] | Wow. Even my docs have bugs. I will run test here. Should have done that before. |
PeterWood 27-Mar-2013 [6723x2] | My tests don't test the doc-strings so its definitely not you Gregg :-) I wonder how I can test your doc-strings ? |
I've just run the Red tests on both Windows 7 and OS X. Same results on both: ** - Red Test Suite******************5331 / 5666 ** | |
Gregg 27-Mar-2013 [6725x3] | Evenetually we can test for missing doc strings and use some for reflection test, at the least. |
I get the same serialization results here. Great to have so many tests Peter, and easy to run. | |
Does it log results somewhere? | |
PeterWood 27-Mar-2013 [6728x2] | Yes. the log is in Red/quick-test/quick-test.log |
Thank Nenad for the tests being easy to run, it's his design. | |
Gregg 27-Mar-2013 [6730] | Excellent. Maybe have the test runner print out the log location at the end? |
PeterWood 27-Mar-2013 [6731x2] | That's a thought. |
I've just checked the quick-test docs and see that I forgot to mention the log file. I'll certainly need to update the docs. | |
DocKimbel 27-Mar-2013 [6733x2] | Oldes: you can't currently as any-type! is not a defined type yet. |
Doc-string related bug fixed. | |
Gregg 27-Mar-2013 [6735] | That's great Doc! Only 12 tests fail here now. |
DocKimbel 27-Mar-2013 [6736] | There should be only 9 failing, 3 are invalid tests that I'm fixing right now, 6 are EXIT/RETURN tests for interpreter (not supported yet). |
Gregg 27-Mar-2013 [6737] | Yes. Looking good. |
DocKimbel 27-Mar-2013 [6738x2] | Pushed the fixes for invalid tests, you should have only 6 failing now. |
OpenCV 2D lines demo: http://www.wuala.com/fjouen/Code/OpenCV/Red/pub/lines2.jpg/ Webcam driver and videos playback code example in Red/System can be found in this thread: http://www.digicamsoft.com/cgi-bin/rebelBB.cgi?thread=%3C17Mar2013190850930275100%3E François is close to 100% covering of OpenCV for Red/System. Once that (huge) work done, we would need to create some good dialect to access all those features from Red. | |
Bo 27-Mar-2013 [6740] | Awesome! |
Pekr 28-Mar-2013 [6741x2] | Dialect = parse, for that, you need objects, no? :-) |
or do you mean Red/System kind of dialect? | |
DocKimbel 28-Mar-2013 [6743x2] | Dialects implementations do not need PARSE, they can be implemented with base functions, as shown by Kaj with its VID-like dialect for GTK+. |
PARSE helps making the dialect implementation shorter, faster (for interpreters) and more elegant. | |
Pekr 28-Mar-2013 [6745x2] | weeee wanna more elegant :-) |
well, but as for me, from usability standpoint, as a priority, I prefer I/O .... | |
DocKimbel 28-Mar-2013 [6747] | Me too. :-) |
Oldes 28-Mar-2013 [6748] | float |
Pekr 28-Mar-2013 [6749] | floats for Red? Yes, why not ... but file, networking, ports, schemes, tasking schemes ... so that Graham can implement/port FTP, smtp, pop3 etc for us :-) |
Oldes 28-Mar-2013 [6750x2] | Pekr, are you aware of this: red>> 2.3 *** Error: word has no value! Sorry, but if there is any top priority, than it's decimal support! |
Anyway, you can read/write including networking with Kaj's cURL binding already, but not to do something basic like 1.1 + 2.2 yet | |
Pekr 28-Mar-2013 [6752x2] | I don't care about Curl, I regard it being an interim solution. Any REBOL-like language has to support what makes REBOL being a REBOL in a first place. And one of its concepts is abstracted interfacing - ports, schemes, that it :-) |
I did not say anything against float support. Actually I said - Yes. But my (most probably limited) understanding is, that float support for Red is easier than ports etc., so that it will be done, and IO comes next ... | |
Oldes 28-Mar-2013 [6754] | If decimal support would be so easy, it would be here already:) |
Pekr 28-Mar-2013 [6755x2] | Well, decimal support is in Red/System already, no? To some extend. Of course I don't know, if it makes bringing decimal support for Red any easier, maybe not .... |
extend = extent .... | |
DocKimbel 28-Mar-2013 [6757] | Right, adding basic float support to Red is not difficult, but as floats are not needed internally to build Red, they are low priority (but if someone wants to contribute it, it will be welcome). Moreover, the runtime lexer is disposable code, it will be soon replaced by a new one with Unicode support and more complete syntax support. So extending it now for additional literal forms is a bit of waste of time. If someone is interested in implementing float support anyway, the decimal! name is reserved for a future BCD datatype, so possible names are: real! or float!. It will be a 64-bit float, so mapped underneath to Red/System float! type. A support for float32! at Red level is not planned, converting float! to float32! at Red/System level when needed (i.e. OpenGL API) should be enough. |
DocKimbel 29-Mar-2013 [6758] | More screenshots of OpenCV binding progress: http://www.wuala.com/fjouen/Code/OpenCV/Red/pub/ |
Gregg 29-Mar-2013 [6759x3] | I've started on some Red mezzanines in %Red/mezz/ here. Early days, but my hat is off to Doc for how far Red has come already. Yes, I crash the console a lot, and I can't DO files yet, but I can paste code into the console, play, and still make really good progress. |
Doc will have final say over things, particularly what he needs in place to make Red self-hosting, but certainly post suggestions for your most-used mezzanines. | |
This is just playground stuff right now, not on github anywhere yet. | |
DocKimbel 29-Mar-2013 [6762] | Great initiative Gregg! Hope that more people will join. |
Gregg 29-Mar-2013 [6763x2] | BTW, Doc, since you did BIND yesterday, I added COLLECT. Need to test more, but it works! |
HELP and WHAT are next on my list. | |
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