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Arnold 7-Apr-2013 [6921] | sometimes I wonder about that even. Must be calculating that spinning wheel then. |
Kaj 7-Apr-2013 [6922x2] | Yep, it could dedicate a whole core to that :-) |
I think OS X GUI apps are fundamentally dual-threaded, with one thread for the GUI, so in the best case, it uses two cores more or less | |
Arnold 7-Apr-2013 [6924] | But seriously why not a machine that is more actual? Because you prove the minimalistic needs? |
Kaj 7-Apr-2013 [6925x3] | Yes; for example, in Syllable Desktop, almost no speedup is noticable in regular use |
That is to say, the old machine was already more than usually needed for Syllable | |
Our fifteen years old laptops are still among the best machines we have to run Syllable on | |
Arnold 7-Apr-2013 [6928] | Better run an ad in the local paper: "We collect your old PC's for free" |
Kaj 7-Apr-2013 [6929x4] | Nah, that costs money. We can get computers without ads :-) |
Try this in Try REBOL: | |
call "cat /proc/cpuinfo" | |
That server was also donated | |
Oldes 9-Apr-2013 [6933] | It is not possible to create struct with function datatype as a member? |
Kaj 9-Apr-2013 [6934] | In most cases, you have to cast to integer! to handle function pointers |
Oldes 9-Apr-2013 [6935] | fine.. this got compiled: wc/lpfnWndProc: as integer! :WndProc |
Gregg 10-Apr-2013 [6936x2] | Haven't checked to see if it's a known issue, but if I append/dup with a large number of elements it crashes. I'll try to track down the exact number. 75K does it, 65K does not (in a quick int append test). |
Ah, I tricked myself. It is OK at 65536, but crashes at 65537. I thought it wasn't right at the 64K boundary. | |
DocKimbel 10-Apr-2013 [6938] | It's too early to stress test the memory manager, as it's not yet completed for the handling of bigger series. |
Pekr 10-Apr-2013 [6939] | Maybe it causes stress to Gregg, that he can't stress-test :-) |
Endo 10-Apr-2013 [6940x4] | Here you can compile your Red scripts online and then download the compile executable file: http://bircomteknoloji.com:8181/ |
You can use it to test for compiling Red scripts and generated executable file. | |
Doc: Red header is case sensitive, red [ ] doesn't compile, "Invalid Red program" it says. Red [ ] works. | |
Some antivirus programs gives false alarm for compiled executables, so I think its better to not spread this site too much, people can think that it downloads viruses. | |
Gregg 10-Apr-2013 [6944] | Ah, that would explain my errors Endo. I didn't include a header. |
DocKimbel 10-Apr-2013 [6945x5] | Endo, nice work! Could come handy sometimes. |
For false alarms from AV software, please report them to me so I can contact AV vendors to whitelist Red binaries. | |
For Red header, I've made it case sensitive on purpose as, unlike Rebol which is a very uncommon name, Red is very common, the risk of a false header detection is much higher (for scripts embedded in HTML, makedoc document, etc...). So the case-sensitivity would lower the number of false positives. An added benefit is that it forces users to write Red name correctly, so not RED or red. | |
Endo, you could even make it a webservice that could be used with a simple WGET call from a command-line. ;-) | |
Also, when asking for the file to be downloaded, you should rename the file to something more human-friendly or ask the name from the user. You can use Content-Disposition HTTP field for doing that easily. Here's an example from one of CureCode's RSP: response/buffer: get-modes file 'full-path response/set-header 'Content-Disposition rejoin [{filename="} name {"}] | |
Gregg 10-Apr-2013 [6950x3] | On the header, having it be Red may lead to the most false positives. If it's at the top of a file, it would normally be capitalized. |
As long as it must be followed by a left bracket, you should be OK though. | |
I do agree that it avoids being confused as an acronym. | |
Kaj 10-Apr-2013 [6953] | It was my understanding that string/rs-head returns a UTF-8 cache of a string. How can I get this value? I'm trying to get UTF-8 back that I fed in. The problem I'm having is the following: write %syllable.org.html read "http://syllable.org" This writes out just one character instead of the expected file. |
Gregg 10-Apr-2013 [6954] | Doc, on stress testing, I was just trying to do eyeball speed testing of some mezz code. |
Kaj 10-Apr-2013 [6955] | I agree that the allocator is important to fix |
Gregg 11-Apr-2013 [6956x6] | On the stress testing, and keeping in mind that I fully expect Red to be slow at many things at this stage, It is really wonderful to see that it's not. Yes, these are still small tests, but Red still impresses me with what works and works so well. |
And because there are holes, it makes me think about different ways to solve things, which is fun. | |
My small test was for a FILTER function: filter: function [ "Returns all values in a series that match a test." series [series!] test [function!] "Test (predicate) to perform on each value; must take one arg" ; TBD: any-function! /out "Reverse the test, filtering out matching results" ][ result: copy [] ; The lambda here is like QUOTE, but it evaluates. op: either out [:not] [func [val] [:val]] foreach value series [ if op test :value [append/only result :value] ] result ] | |
Given the block size limit, I used a block with 60K elements in it: b: append/dup copy [] [1 b #c "d"] 15000 | |
Then tested with simple type testing funcs. e.g. filter b :integer? filter/out b :integer? etc. | |
I have to loop >5 times before I see *any* delay in the console prompt returning. At 10 times, it seems to take about a second. | |
Oldes 11-Apr-2013 [6962] | If you check http://www.red-lang.org/p/roadmap.htmlyou can see that GC is made just from 10%. You are allocating large memory blocks, but do not free them posibly. |
Gregg 11-Apr-2013 [6963x2] | Yes, they never get freed. I "freshen" my console frequently. :-) |
It doesn't seem to slow down as I continue testing. Just eats memory. | |
DocKimbel 11-Apr-2013 [6965] | I will have a look today at the reported Curecode issues, then I'll get back to Red coding, probably working first on the exception support for Red/System (in order to be able to implement EXIT/RETURN support for the interpreter). |
Endo 11-Apr-2013 [6966] | Thank's for the feedbacks, making a webservice-red-compiler is a nice idea, but I made it for lazy people like me to be able to compile Red scripts easily. Doc: red-lang.org is on a Cheyenne server or a normal hosting service? |
DocKimbel 11-Apr-2013 [6967] | Only some static resources are on Cheyenne server, the rest is hosted by Blogger (Google). |
Endo 11-Apr-2013 [6968] | For false alarms from AV software, please report them to me so I can contact AV vendors to whitelist Red binaries. , how should I report it? What to include? I can prepare zip package with those exe files and some info (OS versions, AV versions, etc.) |
DocKimbel 11-Apr-2013 [6969x2] | Just give me the AV software name first, then the source file name and compilation optons (if any). |
You should also upload first your binary here: https://www.virustotal.com/en/ | |
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