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Arnold 25-Apr-2013 [7240x3] | Could be it is a compiler error, the message suggests it imho. |
Pointers are not my specialty :( | |
Have you previously done a while loop in Red/System like that? Try it a little simpler while [0 < len][mem: mem + 1 len: len - 1] to be sure it is not the combined statement that is confusing the compiler. (Just trying to help here until the real experts jump in) | |
Marco 25-Apr-2013 [7243] | It seems the all [] inside the while test block the problem, so how can I do more then one test inside it? |
Kaj 25-Apr-2013 [7244] | Assignments can't be embedded, so you have to split them out into a separate expression |
Arnold 25-Apr-2013 [7245] | put all [] in a block too? |
Kaj 25-Apr-2013 [7246] | len: len - 1 len > 0 |
Arnold 25-Apr-2013 [7247] | keep it simple |
Kaj 25-Apr-2013 [7248] | The ALL [ ] is not needed |
Arnold 25-Apr-2013 [7249] | Good thing Red isn't called Green (as in combined blue and yellow) The all [] was meant to be a test to see if Red/System can handle it? |
Kaj 25-Apr-2013 [7250] | It can, but it's not needed here |
Arnold 25-Apr-2013 [7251] | yep |
Marco 25-Apr-2013 [7252] | Not needed here but the original was: while [all [mem/1 <> string/1 0 < len: len - 1]][mem: mem + 1] |
Kaj 25-Apr-2013 [7253] | while [len: len - 1 len > 0] |
Arnold 25-Apr-2013 [7254] | so try while [all [mem/1 <> string/1 len: len - 1 0 < len]][mem: mem + 1] |
Kaj 25-Apr-2013 [7255] | while [len: len - 1 all [mem/1 <> string/1 len > 0]] |
Arnold 25-Apr-2013 [7256] | 6 seconds, you are fast Kaj! |
Kaj 25-Apr-2013 [7257] | It has taken 45 years for someone to say that to me :-) |
Marco 25-Apr-2013 [7258] | Ok, understood. |
Kaj 25-Apr-2013 [7259] | I would like to have that feature in Red/System v2 :-) |
Arnold 25-Apr-2013 [7260x2] | Poor Marco! Hope this is still helpful! I think those 'features' are confusing (and bad practice) |
Even while [len: len - 1 0 < len] or while [0 < len len: len - 1] is terrible if you ask me. Luckily you do not ask me. :) | |
Kaj 25-Apr-2013 [7262x2] | You mean the features that define REBOL? |
while [0 < len len: len - 1] doesn't work, either in Red/System or in REBOL | |
Arnold 25-Apr-2013 [7264] | I mean code like 0 < len: len - 1 is confusing to me. |
Kaj 25-Apr-2013 [7265] | That's a good functional programming idiom that REBOL and Red support. Without it, they wouldn't really be functional languages |
DocKimbel 25-Apr-2013 [7266] | Adding to Kaj's reply, assignments in Red/System are not returning anything, so they can't be used in ANY or ALL blocks. This is something we'll change in 2.0 (maybe even before if it's possible without rewritting most of the compiler). |
Kaj 25-Apr-2013 [7267] | Good news |
DocKimbel 26-Apr-2013 [7268x3] | Shared library generation for MacOS X has been released. |
Use -t DarwinSO as compilation target for now. Some details needs more work and I will probably change the naming scheme for shared libraries targets. | |
Don't use -dlib compilation option as it won't activate all the required flags for non-Windows platforms. This should be fixed tonight. | |
Kaj 26-Apr-2013 [7271x3] | I found out that not only does Red not support Unicode, it doesn't support Latin-1, not even on Windows |
Both the compile time and runtime lexers don't let Latin-1 through | |
I've relabeled my console versions as supporting only ASCII | |
Paul 26-Apr-2013 [7274] | Hey guys was just thinking. Why not a RED group on linkedin.com? Doc you should start one up. I'll definatley join and think many here would. Would be another outlet to get more discussion with those outside of the usual outlets. |
Arnold 26-Apr-2013 [7275] | Good idea. I would join from the start. But better maybe in a later stage of the development? When it is more appropriate to attrackt more outside momentum because there is even more Red to show to the world? After Red becomes really selfsupporting? It seems to me all the other channels are taking a lot of time for Nenad as is. |
Paul 26-Apr-2013 [7276] | It's low maintemance - more a badge of recognition for the time being but since Doc updates the red-lang.lorg site may just as well put those posts in the linked group also. |
Gregg 26-Apr-2013 [7277x2] | I don't use it, but isn't it more for business networking? Not saying it would be bad to show that people use Red (when that time comes), but I don't know how appropriate it would be for language discussion. |
If Doc needs to do updates another place, that's not good, as we need to help keep him focused. If someone else is responsible, that would be best. | |
Pekr 26-Apr-2013 [7279] | What we need is more activity on Facebook as well. Just look when last message was posted. Ppl are grateful for any kind of news .... |
DocKimbel 26-Apr-2013 [7280x4] | Gregg: +1 |
Paul: feel free to open one and send us invitations, but I personaly have no time to post news on yet another channel (I already post here, on Twitter and on red-lang.org, and answer questions on IRC, SO chat, ...) | |
Pekr: I think FB was a mistake, it's not the right place/tool where to have technical discussions (especially on deep topic like programming languages). | |
Kaj: I don't understand what you are talking about. If you cared about giving an example or any useful information I could look at or work on, your post would look a bit more constructive. | |
Kaj 26-Apr-2013 [7284x6] | I've been working on adding UTF-8 support for the past week, so you'll see construction soon |
Here's what happens when I paste UTF-8 in the console on Linux: | |
-=== Red Console alpha version ===- (only Latin-1 input supported) red>> s: "Espaņol" == "Espa" red>> length? s == 4 | |
A very similar thing happens when I paste Latin-1 into Windows | |
Here's what happens when I try to compile Latin-1 source code: | |
-= Red Compiler =- Compiling /home/kaj/Red/common/examples/Latin-1.red ... *** Syntax Error: Invalid string! value *** line: 5 *** at: {"Espa\ufffdol.txt" "Espa\ufffdol"^M } | |
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