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[#Red] Red language group

DocKimbel
9-May-2013
[7750x2]
JNI native code is running in the same thread as the JVM.
as the JVM
 => "as the Java program"
GrahamC
9-May-2013
[7752]
but SL4A allows remote control of an android device :)
DocKimbel
10-May-2013
[7753]
FYI, I'm re-arranging the Red compiler code output in order to allow 
the Red runtime library initialization on DLL loading. Once that 
done, we'll be able to produce Red shared libs (the exporting interface 
remains at Red/System level though).
Gregg
10-May-2013
[7754]
Excellent Doc. That sounds great.
james_nak
10-May-2013
[7755]
Very cool Doc.
DocKimbel
11-May-2013
[7756x5]
I've compiled and run my first Red shared library. Use #call directive 
to call back Red functions from Red/System.
Declare your Red/System exported function in a #system-global block.
Untested, but should work:

Red [ ]

#system-global [
	launch: does [#call [main]]	
	#export [launch]
]

main: does [
	print "Hello Red World!"
]
BTW, I could make the #system-global block implicit there using a 
Red level directive to abtract such code.
Hmm, would work only if no arguments are passed from the caller and 
no value returned to it. Red/System is still needed to marshall the 
values between outer world and Red datatypes.
Pekr
11-May-2013
[7761x2]
congrats, great work! :-)
btw - when ELF will be finished, so that we can have JNI example 
without the crash when exiting app? Or was it unrelated?
DocKimbel
11-May-2013
[7763x2]
I've fixed the crashes on JNI demo a couple of days ago.
The exiting crash is related to running it in a 64-bit JVM, which 
is not supported.
Gregg
11-May-2013
[7765]
Go Doc Go!
Kaj
12-May-2013
[7766]
How about having the compilers recognise a "Type: library" field 
in the Red [] and Red/System [] headers, so you don't have to add 
the -dlib parameter to the command line?
DocKimbel
13-May-2013
[7767]
I thought about it already as one of the ways to produce a shared 
lib, in some of my recent scripts there's already a `Type: 'dll` 
header field, but `library` is probably nicer. I will implement support 
for it when I'll find time as it's a minor feature.
Kaj
13-May-2013
[7768]
Thanks
Oldes
13-May-2013
[7769]
Hi Doc, I was messing around with the PE.

Added section: [.rsrc  [-   #{00000000000000000004000000000000}]] 
in compiler (this should be just empty .rsrc, and trying to build 
it in PE.r using:

oh/rsrc-addr:			section-addr? job '.rsrc
oh/rsrc-size:			length? job/sections/.rsrc/2


but the address is pointing into wrong position (512B less). You 
probably don't know without some deeper examination, what may be 
the reason, do you?

Btw. there should be:
    .rsrc				#{40000040}	;-- [read initialized]

at this line: https://github.com/dockimbel/Red/blob/master/red-system/formats/PE.r#L119
(the section name starts with a dot).
DocKimbel
13-May-2013
[7770x2]
Oldes: adding .rsrc support is not trivial. I have a stashed prototype 
somewhere, I could push it in a new branch for you to look at and 
improve it.
PE format does not require specific section names, so Red uses its 
own ones.
Oldes
13-May-2013
[7772]
be able to add just the empty .rsrc section would be a good start.
DocKimbel
13-May-2013
[7773x5]
Let me see...
Pushed it in new rsrc-support branch: https://github.com/dockimbel/Red/tree/rsrc-support
See the commit diff: https://github.com/dockimbel/Red/commit/160cf3dfa3629c63b4dc2e9465fb5337a43754b8
That base should be enough for a start, the hard part now is to generate 
the resources tree with all the right entries ...far from easy.
Oh, it seems I've stopped in the middle of the coding session at 
ligne 381 in PE.r.
Oldes
13-May-2013
[7778]
Hm.. I'm not sure this will help me. I have the rsrc data (parsed 
from valid file), just the section's adress is not correct.
DocKimbel
13-May-2013
[7779]
rsrc entries contain file offsets and memory addresses, if you plan 
to just insert a blob of data, it won't work.
Oldes
13-May-2013
[7780x3]
So I must call some commands in the middle, instead of just data 
and setting pointer to it, right?
Ok.. I will play with it even more for a while before going sleep.
For empty rsrc should be enough to provide: table/id-entries:    
 0 instead of 1 on line 377 of your commit and not adding the entry 
(at least that's what I see with exe containing empty rsrc). But 
line 369 of this commit is strange.
Gregg
13-May-2013
[7783x3]
Is the plan to use .res files? i.e., to have a resource compiler 
that the linker can include?
*Many* years ago, I wrote a resource compiler in VB. Too long ago 
to have any of it left in my brain, but something might come back 
is .res is the target.
If
 %.res is the target.
Oldes
13-May-2013
[7786x2]
if the .res is just binary representation of the rsrc section, why 
not. But be able to append icon without need to use hacking tools 
would be nice as well. But we must do small steps here. At least 
we, who don't have Doc's brain:)
So far adding the rswr section modifies these values:   [ entry-point-addr 
code-base data-base ] which should be same as without rsrc in my 
tests, and not increasing init-data-size.
DocKimbel
13-May-2013
[7788x2]
Line 369: it's for getting the memory pointer for last section, but 
it seems it's lacking an offset for skipping that last section size.
Gregg: no .res file, think .red file (or at least .ren). ;-)
Oldes
13-May-2013
[7790]
Why not .res? .res is compiled .rc
DocKimbel
13-May-2013
[7791x2]
So, yes, we need to build a resource compiler, but the description 
format needs to be specified in Red format.
Is .res binary?
Oldes
13-May-2013
[7793]
yes
DocKimbel
13-May-2013
[7794]
Do you have a link for the .res format spec?
Oldes
13-May-2013
[7795]
I believe it wil lbe just the raw content of the rsrc section. No, 
I don't have, but with tools like Resource Hacker you can build these 
from RC files which are what we don't want
DocKimbel
13-May-2013
[7796x2]
Using .rc and Resource Hacker is fine in the meantime, until we get 
our own compiler.
Looks like Gregg is a good candidate for building such compiler in 
the future. ;-)
Oldes
13-May-2013
[7798x2]
For me it would be enough to have correct PE header at this moment.
Ok.. moving [ build-rsrc job ] after [ build-import job ] leads to 
expected result with the  [entry-point-addr code-base data-base] 
values