World: r4wp

Is the plan to use .res files? i.e., to have a resource compiler 
that the linker can include?

*Many* years ago, I wrote a resource compiler in VB. Too long ago 
to have any of it left in my brain, but something might come back 
is .res is the target.

If
 %.res is the target.

if the .res is just binary representation of the rsrc section, why 
not. But be able to append icon without need to use hacking tools 
would be nice as well. But we must do small steps here. At least 
we, who don't have Doc's brain:)

So far adding the rswr section modifies these values:   [ entry-point-addr 
code-base data-base ] which should be same as without rsrc in my 
tests, and not increasing init-data-size.

Line 369: it's for getting the memory pointer for last section, but 
it seems it's lacking an offset for skipping that last section size.

Gregg: no .res file, think .red file (or at least .ren). ;-)

Why not .res? .res is compiled .rc

So, yes, we need to build a resource compiler, but the description 
format needs to be specified in Red format.

Is .res binary?

yes

Do you have a link for the .res format spec?

I believe it wil lbe just the raw content of the rsrc section. No, 
I don't have, but with tools like Resource Hacker you can build these 
from RC files which are what we don't want

Using .rc and Resource Hacker is fine in the meantime, until we get 
our own compiler.

Looks like Gregg is a good candidate for building such compiler in 
the future. ;-)

For me it would be enough to have correct PE header at this moment.

Ok.. moving [ build-rsrc job ] after [ build-import job ] leads to 
expected result with the  [entry-point-addr code-base data-base] 
values

no.. my mistake.. was parsing valid file instead of the one build 
in red with rsrc.

Ok, so the main problem will be, that oh/headers-size = 1024, but 
the pointer to code as a first section is 512. Now I must find why.

Sorry, I'm in the middle of Java code, can't help you with that right 
now.

For Windows, there are APIs now to interact with resources. I seem 
to recall they haven't always worked for me, based on using tools 
that took that approach, rather than doing the res dance. The best 
approach will depend on how Doc wants it to work.

I might miss some basic OS understanding. Guys, how do you work with 
all the path? I have JAVA installed, REBOL installed, yet what I 
am strugling with, is path. When I follow docs, it always seems to 
be easy. Docs state:


do/args %rsc.r "-dlib %bridges/java/JNIdemo.reds -o %bridges/java/JNIdemo"


well, for normal user, in order to try that, user needs to understand, 
he has to start Rebol for that. So there are basically two options:


- running REBOL from icon. Then you have to change-dir to where Red 
is - in my case, something like C:\!Rebol\Red

- I thought, I might use just "pressing ENTER" upon Red.r, which 
launches console for me. But above still will not work, unless I 
change-dir into red-system subdir. It should be imo either stated 
in the docs, or some shortcuts provided, e.g. red-system.r, allowing 
me to launch console directly in that subdir, and then above command 
would run just OK.


I am not stating anything is wronk, it is upon user to improve the 
workflow, but surely it is an obstacle for occassional user.

Now back to docs:

2. Compile and run the JNIdemo.java app from console:

        $ javac JNIdemo.java
        $ java JNIdemo


Well, when in console, my console does not recognise javac, nor java 
executables. Apparently a path problem, but I have JAVA installed 
via installer. So I have to go inside JAVA dir, which means:

cd c:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jdk1.7.0_21\bin\
javac c:\!rebol\!Red\\red-system\bridges\java\

Any tips? :-)

install javac in your system path

type "set" at a dos shell to see if it's there or not.  If not, you 
have to add it.

control panel/System/Advanced system/settings/environment settings/system 
variables/path

I also needed to add the Java folders to PATH manually, I don't know 
what Oracle is doing with its installers...

I don't think Sun did this either

ok, thanks for the tips

I don't understand the part of your post that starts with "I thought, 
I might use just "pressing ENTER" upon Red.r"

well, you have Rebol installed and linked to .r ..... I am so much 
used to work with Total Commander, that I launch Rebol from icon 
sporadically. The trouble for me, is the path. So from time to time, 
I place kind of empty run.r script in some dir, which serves for 
nothing more, than just pressing enter upon it, and being run in 
particular directory, which means, in certain directory path

and I can find red.r in the main directory. Whne I hit enter, it 
just launches the console. But maybe I am missusing it :-)

that is why I thought that having red-system.r in the red-system 
subdir, would be handy. Than the examples in docs might be run without 
the proper path obstacles

I am not sure I am clear on my intentions :-)

or just bad habits ...

Also I would change version.r to either version.txt, or its content 
to:

REBOL []

print 0.3.2
halt


... so that by hitting enter or double clicks, it shows the version, 
not error ... well, just imo ... those are all absolutly minor concerns 
though, but would probably help to smooth the experience ....

But maybe you guys don't have .r associated with R2 interpreter?

I never use the association, I always start Rebol scripts from my 
code editor or from the console (I just have a couple of Rebol shortcuts 
to start them in console mode).

%version.r is a data file used by Red compiler, it's not for decoration. 
;-)

You should start Red and Red/System compilers from the console as 
explained in the docs, paths are sensible as long as you start it 
from "sources". Once we get it encapped, it will be much simpler.

btw - -= Red Compiler =-
Compiling /C/!rebol/!red/red/red/tests/hello.red ...

*** Compilation Error: comp-literal: unsupported type 14-May-2013/13:24:25+2:00
*** in file: %/C/!rebol/!red/red/red/tests/hello.red
*** near: [14-May-2013/13:24:25+2:00]

There's no date! type in Red yet.

well, I just tried to run hello.red, nothing more :-)

So demo.red and hello.red are not supposed to work yet? Or am I doing 
anything wrong?

OK, deleted the repo, resync, now it compiles ....

I don't know where you got those dates from, but certainly not from 
Red github's repo.

Are you using a tool that messes up Red file headers?

I still don't know, how to properly work with Git. I use Windows 
Git, nice looking app. But when I switch between the branches, I 
fear it mixes the files? It syncs various branches into the same 
dir .... not sure that was the problem, though ....

I have no such issues with TortoiseGit.

Switching to any branch from same folder.

The only time when the switching fails is when a versioned file is 
locked by an app (like a code editor sometimes).