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DocKimbel 14-May-2013 [7821] | You should start Red and Red/System compilers from the console as explained in the docs, paths are sensible as long as you start it from "sources". Once we get it encapped, it will be much simpler. |
Pekr 14-May-2013 [7822] | btw - -= Red Compiler =- Compiling /C/!rebol/!red/red/red/tests/hello.red ... *** Compilation Error: comp-literal: unsupported type 14-May-2013/13:24:25+2:00 *** in file: %/C/!rebol/!red/red/red/tests/hello.red *** near: [14-May-2013/13:24:25+2:00] |
DocKimbel 14-May-2013 [7823] | There's no date! type in Red yet. |
Pekr 14-May-2013 [7824x3] | well, I just tried to run hello.red, nothing more :-) |
So demo.red and hello.red are not supposed to work yet? Or am I doing anything wrong? | |
OK, deleted the repo, resync, now it compiles .... | |
DocKimbel 14-May-2013 [7827x2] | I don't know where you got those dates from, but certainly not from Red github's repo. |
Are you using a tool that messes up Red file headers? | |
Pekr 14-May-2013 [7829] | I still don't know, how to properly work with Git. I use Windows Git, nice looking app. But when I switch between the branches, I fear it mixes the files? It syncs various branches into the same dir .... not sure that was the problem, though .... |
DocKimbel 14-May-2013 [7830x3] | I have no such issues with TortoiseGit. |
Switching to any branch from same folder. | |
The only time when the switching fails is when a versioned file is locked by an app (like a code editor sometimes). | |
Pekr 14-May-2013 [7833] | I used tortoise git on my old notebook, now I am using Windows Git. There was simply something messed with my files, could not even compile Java bridge example. Now everything works again .... |
DocKimbel 15-May-2013 [7834x7] | Red/Java bridge prototype released: https://github.com/dockimbel/Red/tree/dyn-lib-emitter/red/bridges/java |
This is a higher-level API for controlling Java from Red. Please read the commit log: https://github.com/dockimbel/Red/commit/5d43ad443a0524f91418fe62c0f5e90e3d143f75 | |
I've ported the JNI low-level hello example to Red, see how it looks now: https://github.com/dockimbel/Red/blob/dyn-lib-emitter/red/bridges/java/hello.red | |
Though, this is not the final API I have in mind for Android, as I want a cross-platform API. | |
The API will probably slightly change in the next days as I refine and improve it. | |
(Constructive) feedback is welcome. | |
This bridge will be the foundation of Red complete port to Android even if most of Red developers on mobile devices will probably never have to go down to this platform-specific API. | |
Kaj 15-May-2013 [7841] | Is the Android GUI AWT? |
DocKimbel 15-May-2013 [7842] | Nope, AWT is an old GUI built-in Java, so it's handy for doing simple GUI demo. |
Kaj 15-May-2013 [7843] | I thought so |
DocKimbel 15-May-2013 [7844] | I will do a prototype wrapping of the Android GUI API in a few days, so you'll be able to put your VID-like dialect on top of it. ;-) |
Kaj 15-May-2013 [7845] | Nice |
james_nak 15-May-2013 [7846] | Yes, very cool. |
Kaj 15-May-2013 [7847x4] | Would it be possible to have #export work not only on libraries, but also executables? |
PicoGL is a library that defines four or so functions in which an OpenGL program should be defined. Although PicoGL is a dynamic library loaded by the program, it expects the program to provide those functions | |
#export adds a few bytes to a program not compiled as a library, but it doesn't export the specified symbols | |
I've already reimplemented the main event loop inside PicoGL that wraps the user functions. This makes it work on Linux, where the loader doesn't seem to mind that the library can't resolve the user functions. On Syllable Desktop, the program still won't start on account of the missing symbols. I don't know about other platforms | |
Pekr 16-May-2013 [7851x2] | I have some issues understanding Git again. There is apparently new help file for java bridge, as shown in above linke commit, but I can't see the changes reflected, when looking into file via files section, nor does it sync to my desktop ... |
Hmm, new commits are in different tree, not merged into dyn-lib branch yet? | |
DocKimbel 16-May-2013 [7853x2] | #export for executables: I guess we could support it. |
Pekr, everything is fine on github repo, new commits are in dyn-lib-emitter branch. | |
Pekr 16-May-2013 [7855x2] | How is that I can't see e.g. bridge.java in here? https://github.com/dockimbel/Red/tree/dyn-lib-emitter/red-system/bridges/java |
I can get to it only via your second posted link, which instead of dyn-lib, shows "tree: 5d43ad443a" .... | |
Oldes 16-May-2013 [7857] | one is red and one is red/system |
Pekr 16-May-2013 [7858] | OK, now I can see that. So we will have two bridge directories? I thought red-system one is going to disappear, but maybe it make sense the way it is, as users might want to work with red-system only? |
DocKimbel 16-May-2013 [7859] | For now I will keep those different layers in different folders. |
Pekr 16-May-2013 [7860] | ok, ran the example, making screenshot, posting to FB group :-) |
DocKimbel 16-May-2013 [7861] | Great! :-) |
Pekr 16-May-2013 [7862x3] | Doc, tried to clone your examples, so that I could do some first tests by trying to adapt your code, I got into strange problem. I copied your hello.red into pekr.red and generated the pekr-lib.dll. Changed bridge.java to load pekr-lib.dll. And - it works. However - when I tried to clone bridge.java into pekr.java, or simply change "class bridge {" to e.g. "class fridge {", to generate differently named java app (fridge.class), it does not work. Is bridge class somehow hardcoded somewhere in the API? |
btw - I was able to add the button: button: java-new [ java.awt.Button "Test" ] java-do [frame/add button] .... but then label does not display :-) The layout manager probably needs different technique to work with. Btw isn't AWT really old, something like 1995? :-) | |
Now question to API. On SO I found comparisong of AWT vs Swing: ... to add a child to an AWT frame you'd write: frame.add(child); However using JFrame you need to add the child to the JFrame's content pane instead: frame.getContentPane().add(child); How the above function could be invoked via API? Would java-do [frame/getContentPane/Add ...] work? | |
Kaj 16-May-2013 [7865x2] | I think you'd have to split it. Get the content pane object first with java-new |
Or perhaps two java-do's in a row should do it. I'm not sure how to pass the child object, though | |
DocKimbel 16-May-2013 [7867x4] | Is bridge class somehow hardcoded somewhere in the API? Yes, that's a Java/JNI requirement. The name of exported symbols from the shared lib have to include full Java class names. Do not change the name of Java classes in bridge.java. |
Btw isn't AWT really old, something like 1995? :-) It came with the first versions of Java, when the technology was meant for Applets only. | |
Would java-do [frame/getContentPane/Add ...] work? No, as Kaj said, you need to split it in two parts. However we could extend the API to handle sur syntax, but at this point, it would be overkill. | |
sur => such | |
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