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[#Red] Red language group
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Geomol 28-May-2013 [7958] | :) Well, can't it just use one dir somewhere, like in Applications as all the other software do? |
Kaj 28-May-2013 [7959] | Nope, they're ports from Unix, which is quite inflexible about its software conventions |
Geomol 28-May-2013 [7960] | ok |
Kaj 28-May-2013 [7961] | OS X wants to be a Unix, so there you go |
Geomol 28-May-2013 [7962] | Downloading and Installing Homebrew... And then it's counting objects... 113450, done |
Kaj 28-May-2013 [7963] | Git is doing that, I think |
Geomol 28-May-2013 [7964] | I have a hard time figuring out, what Red is. Is there a simple overview somewhere? |
Kaj 28-May-2013 [7965] | The apps you see in your Applications use all sorts of Unix infrastructure underneath, such as the cURL library, Ruby language and Git tool you just found |
Gregg 28-May-2013 [7966] | Think of Red as REBOL that can be compiled. The main docs are for Red/System at this point. http://static.red-lang.org/red-system-specs.html#section-19.2 |
Kaj 28-May-2013 [7967x2] | Red programs are like the Mac Applications: they don't have to be installed and don't care where they run |
However, my bindings, like Mac Applications, use infrastructure that is included in the ancient Unix parts of the system. So a clash appears, when that infrastructure is not installed yet | |
Geomol 28-May-2013 [7969] | Seems like I got brew installed, and it sais: You should run `brew doctor' *before* you install anything. |
Kaj 28-May-2013 [7970] | Interesting |
Geomol 28-May-2013 [7971] | Doing that gives me 7 warnings. |
Kaj 28-May-2013 [7972] | Anything serious? |
Geomol 28-May-2013 [7973x3] | Warning: Some directories in /usr/local/share/man aren't writable. Warning: You have leftover files from an older version of Xcode. Warning: Unbrewed dylibs were found in /usr/local/lib. Warning: Unbrewed .la files were found in /usr/local/lib. Warning: Unbrewed .pc files were found in /usr/local/lib/pkgconfig. Warning: Unbrewed static libraries were found in /usr/local/lib. Warning: Your Xcode (4.5.1) is outdated :) |
I have no idea, if it's serious. | |
at the bottom: Please install Xcode 4.6.2. | |
Kaj 28-May-2013 [7976] | Doesn't sound serious, except Xcode |
Geomol 28-May-2013 [7977x3] | hm, well, maybe that's as fra I get now. |
*far* | |
So Red/System is like a base for Red? | |
Kaj 28-May-2013 [7980] | Like C is the base for World, yes |
Geomol 28-May-2013 [7981x2] | ok |
And how far is it developed? | |
Kaj 28-May-2013 [7983] | Enough to write Red in it :-) |
Geomol 28-May-2013 [7984x2] | ok, and how far is Red? |
So if I would try install the gtk+ using brew, do I write: brew install gtk+ ? | |
Kaj 28-May-2013 [7986] | As I said above, best to run GTK-browser to get a feel for the state of Red |
Geomol 28-May-2013 [7987] | yes, and I needed gtk+ for that, right? And I needed brew to get gtk+. |
Kaj 28-May-2013 [7988x2] | Yes, so? |
Not sure if the name is exactly gtk+. Was that the name of the formula? | |
Geomol 28-May-2013 [7990x2] | So I'm asking, if I know should write brew install gtk+ or what? I suggest that, because I see something similar on the brew page: http://mxcl.github.io/homebrew/ , where they do a brew install wget |
gtk+.br | |
Kaj 28-May-2013 [7992] | Yes, you need to fill in the name of the formula |
Geomol 28-May-2013 [7993] | I try. :) |
Kaj 28-May-2013 [7994] | Then the command should be correct. But you should upgrade Xcode first |
Geomol 28-May-2013 [7995x2] | It's doing something. |
nah, I try. :) | |
Kaj 28-May-2013 [7997] | You get to keep the pieces if you break it |
Geomol 28-May-2013 [7998] | Downloading http://tukaani.org/xz/xz-5.0.4.tar.bz2 make install Downloading https://downloads.sf.net/project/machomebrew/Bottles/gettext-0.1 Downloading http://mirrors.kernel.org/sources.redhat.com/libffi/libffi-3.0.1 make install Installing gtk+ dependency: glib Downloading http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/sources/glib/2.36/glib-2.36.2.tar Downloading patches ./configure --disable-maintainer-mode --disable-dtrace --disable-modular-tes make make install Installing gtk+ dependency: jpeg Downloading https://downloads.sf.net/project/machomebrew/Bottles/jpeg-8d.lio Installing gtk+ dependency: libtiff Downloading http://download.osgeo.org/libtiff/tiff-4.0.3.tar.gz make install ... and a lot in between. continuing... |
Kaj 28-May-2013 [7999x2] | Looks good |
Now you have an impression what I've been doing on Syllable in the past decade :-) | |
Geomol 28-May-2013 [8001x3] | Installing gtk+ dependency: gdk-pixbuf Downloading http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/gdk-pixbuf/2.28/gdk-pixbu make make install Installing gtk+ dependency: icu4c Downloading https://downloads.sf.net/project/machomebrew/Bottles/icu4c-51.1. Installing gtk+ dependency: fontconfig Downloading http://fontconfig.org/release/fontconfig-2.10.93.tar.bz2 Patching make install ... |
:D | |
It reminds me a bit on my RedHat days. | |
Kaj 28-May-2013 [8004] | Yep |
Geomol 28-May-2013 [8005] | Installing gtk+ dependency: harfbuzz Downloading http://www.freedesktop.org/software/harfbuzz/release/harfbuzz-0. make install Installing gtk+ dependency: pixman Downloading http://cairographics.org/releases/pixman-0.30.0.tar.gz make install ... |
Kaj 28-May-2013 [8006] | My Red/System bindings include partial bindings for the GLib and GDK-PixBuf libraries you see there, to support GTK |
Geomol 28-May-2013 [8007] | Installing gtk+ dependency: cairo Downloading http://cairographics.org/releases/cairo-1.12.14.tar.xz ... I begin to hear the fans in my MacBook. |
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