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[#Red] Red language group
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Ladislav 4-Jun-2013 [8171x2] | As opposed to that, my opinion is that being pointed to a documentation you should read it before presenting opinions that "it may be oval or square" before even trying to read it. |
...and by "reinventing the wheel" I meant just thinking whether PARSE has the properties desirable for Rebol, since that has already been documented sufficiently as far as I am concerned | |
Geomol 4-Jun-2013 [8173] | Are you trying to shut me down? I asked for Gerard's opinion about PARSE, if it should be more of a PEG or CFG parser. I read him, as he commented on R2 PARSE, that it works on par with PEG theory. |
Ladislav 4-Jun-2013 [8174] | Yes, but he also pointed you to the documentation you did not read |
Geomol 4-Jun-2013 [8175x2] | Gerard pointed to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parsing_Expression_Grammar , which I read. Therefore I asked him about his opinion. |
Cheer up, pal! No need to pick on others like that. | |
Ladislav 4-Jun-2013 [8177] | Aha, reading the above discussion, my apologies must go to Pekr since it was him pointing to the documentation summarizing the properties. |
Pekr 4-Jun-2013 [8178] | No need to apology in this case, I am used to more heavy calibre from Ladislav, when I tend to talk nonsense :-) |
Gabriele 4-Jun-2013 [8179] | Parse: I simply wanted to try porting Topaz's PARSE. Not sure if that would or could become the built in one. I hope to still be able to do it eventually... we'll see. |
Pekr 5-Jun-2013 [8180] | There are some suggestions, for the next version of Windows8, after the Blue (8.1), to be called Windows Red. Now we need to release some juicy Red apps to confuse ppl :-) |
Geomol 5-Jun-2013 [8181] | Is there a Blue language? If such a language was made, maybe it should be the exact opposite of Red? (Whatever that is.) |
Pekr 5-Jun-2013 [8182x2] | Yes, there is :-) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_programming_languages |
Red nor World are there ... | |
Geomol 5-Jun-2013 [8184] | Blue is a system for teaching object-oriented programming, developed at the University of Sydney, Australia. It is an integrated development environment (IDE) and a programming language. Blue has been used for teaching since 1997. The development was stopped in 1999 when one of its principals, Michael Kšlling, began applying the IDE design to the Java programming language, resulting in BlueJ. Sydney, Australia. Opposite side of the World, opposite of Red. :) |
DocKimbel 5-Jun-2013 [8185x2] | Pekr, it is just up to you for Red to be in that list as we already have a wikipedia page for Red. ;-) |
FYI, I will work on fixing the last bugs added to the tracker today, then I'll go back to the work on Android port. | |
Pekr 5-Jun-2013 [8187] | Sorry for stupid question, but by tracker, do you mean Github Issues section? Or is there any other bug tracker you use? |
DocKimbel 5-Jun-2013 [8188] | Github's bugtracker. |
Bo 5-Jun-2013 [8189] | The opposite of Red in reflective color is Green, and in additive and subtractive color systems is Cyan. |
Geomol 5-Jun-2013 [8190] | I was thinking blue and red pills. :) |
Bo 5-Jun-2013 [8191] | Now I understand. I was being too much "science" and not enough "fiction". |
DocKimbel 5-Jun-2013 [8192x2] | I took over the red account on Github: https://github.com/red:-) |
Fortunately, github's helpdesk was kind enough to free that username after my request as it was dormant for more than a year. Cybersquatting names doesn't pay on Github! | |
GrahamC 5-Jun-2013 [8194] | Was that one of my accounts? |
Arnold 6-Jun-2013 [8195] | One good thing about Github :) |
Pekr 6-Jun-2013 [8196] | Red is now part of list of programming languages - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_programming_languages |
DocKimbel 6-Jun-2013 [8197x2] | Great! Thanks. :-) |
Feel free to also update the Red page itself. | |
Pekr 6-Jun-2013 [8199] | well, not sure my English is OK for that :-) Nor do I feel technically skilled, to claim anything about the language and its characteristics .... |
DocKimbel 6-Jun-2013 [8200x3] | You can look at how other similar pages are filled and add some sections, like an HelloWorld example in Red and Red/System. |
Can anyone see a [Close] button on this page? https://github.com/dockimbel/Red/issues/484 Seems like a bug, or has Github changed once again their UI and hide the close action somewhere else? | |
Doh! I'm still logged under my new `red` account...ignore my above question. | |
Pekr 6-Jun-2013 [8203] | Doc, in your last ticket fix example: mp1/mp-digit: allocate 10 ---- where does 'allocate comes from? Can't find it in docs. Or is that just out of context example, and 'allocate is some wrapper to 'malloc? |
DocKimbel 6-Jun-2013 [8204x2] | It's part of Red/System runtime library which is undocumented so far. Some of the contributors have made some extraction tools to generate automatic docs, but none of the initiative has reached a usable state... |
`allocate` function is currently just mapped to malloc(), my intention was to make a native fine-tuned implementation for Red/System, but as it's very low priority, it won't happen soon. | |
Pekr 6-Jun-2013 [8206] | OK, thanks! Looking forward to further progress and First Red android APK example relase :-) |
DocKimbel 6-Jun-2013 [8207] | Me too. :-) |
Arnold 6-Jun-2013 [8208x2] | If you are not sure of your english being good enough, well go ahead and just do edit the site and we will tell you what can be approved. Nothing held against you! Happy to see a little more life (or is it live) on the site. together we can do more than on our own. It takes just some initiative now and then. |
What about a youtube channel for Red? (Could also be a Youtube channel that is also for REBOL) | |
Kaj 6-Jun-2013 [8210] | There are YT movies from the conferences. Someone could make a new playlist out of them |
Arnold 6-Jun-2013 [8211] | I could try to do something like that, but it will be a playlist under my account, not very findable/ related to REBOL/Red |
Kaj 6-Jun-2013 [8212] | That depends who links to it. Someone collected a Syllable playlist and I linked to it from our front page |
Bas 6-Jun-2013 [8213x2] | There allready is a Red-playlist: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL595BBBBC4CD91581 |
If movies should be added, please menton it here? | |
DocKimbel 8-Jun-2013 [8215x2] | Red/Java bridge is now working properly on Linux/ARM too: http://static.red-lang.org/java-bridge-arm.png |
I use a Linux/ARM image running on QEMU to help me debug the low-level parts of Android port (which is a really hostile environment for low-level coding). | |
Gregg 8-Jun-2013 [8217] | Congratulations Doc! |
Pekr 8-Jun-2013 [8218] | Great, once getting home, will publish screenshot to FB ... |
DocKimbel 8-Jun-2013 [8219x2] | Got a simple HelloWorld text displayed in an Android native window using the emulator with an x86 image. Working on the ARM version now. |
The current Red bridge stores too many Java objects references currently, it's ok on desktop platforms, but Android has much lower limitations, so I need to redesign the Red/Java bridge to lower the number of references kept. | |
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