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[#Red] Red language group

Ladislav
4-Jun-2013
[8171x2]
As opposed to that, my opinion is that being pointed to a documentation 
you should read it before presenting opinions that "it may be oval 
or square" before even trying to read it.
...and by "reinventing the wheel" I meant just thinking whether PARSE 
has the properties desirable for Rebol, since that has already been 
documented sufficiently as far as I am concerned
Geomol
4-Jun-2013
[8173]
Are you trying to shut me down?


I asked for Gerard's opinion about PARSE, if it should be more of 
a PEG or CFG parser. I read him, as he commented on R2 PARSE, that 
it works on par with PEG theory.
Ladislav
4-Jun-2013
[8174]
Yes, but he also pointed you to the documentation you did not read
Geomol
4-Jun-2013
[8175x2]
Gerard pointed to
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parsing_Expression_Grammar

, which I read. Therefore I asked him about his opinion.
Cheer up, pal! No need to pick on others like that.
Ladislav
4-Jun-2013
[8177]
Aha, reading the above discussion, my apologies must go to Pekr since 
it was him pointing to the documentation summarizing the properties.
Pekr
4-Jun-2013
[8178]
No need to apology in this case, I am used to more heavy calibre 
from Ladislav, when I tend to talk nonsense :-)
Gabriele
4-Jun-2013
[8179]
Parse: I simply wanted to try porting Topaz's PARSE. Not sure if 
that would or could become the built in one. I hope to still be able 
to do it eventually... we'll see.
Pekr
5-Jun-2013
[8180]
There are some suggestions, for the next version of Windows8, after 
the Blue (8.1), to be called Windows Red. Now we need to release 
some juicy Red apps to confuse ppl :-)
Geomol
5-Jun-2013
[8181]
Is there a Blue language? If such a language was made, maybe it should 
be the exact opposite of Red? (Whatever that is.)
Pekr
5-Jun-2013
[8182x2]
Yes, there is :-) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_programming_languages
Red nor World are there ...
Geomol
5-Jun-2013
[8184]
Blue is a system for teaching object-oriented programming, developed 
at the University of Sydney, Australia. It is an integrated development 
environment (IDE) and a programming language. Blue has been used 
for teaching since 1997. The development was stopped in 1999 when 
one of its principals, Michael Kšlling, began applying the IDE design 
to the Java programming language, resulting in BlueJ.


Sydney, Australia. Opposite side of the World, opposite of Red. :)
DocKimbel
5-Jun-2013
[8185x2]
Pekr, it is just up to you for Red to be in that list as we already 
have a wikipedia page for Red. ;-)
FYI, I will work on fixing the last bugs added to the tracker today, 
then I'll go back to the work on Android port.
Pekr
5-Jun-2013
[8187]
Sorry for stupid question, but by tracker, do you mean Github Issues 
section? Or is there any other bug tracker you use?
DocKimbel
5-Jun-2013
[8188]
Github's bugtracker.
Bo
5-Jun-2013
[8189]
The opposite of Red in reflective color is Green, and in additive 
and subtractive color systems is Cyan.
Geomol
5-Jun-2013
[8190]
I was thinking blue and red pills. :)
Bo
5-Jun-2013
[8191]
Now I understand.  I was being too much "science" and not enough 
"fiction".
DocKimbel
5-Jun-2013
[8192x2]
I took over the red account on Github: https://github.com/red:-)
Fortunately, github's helpdesk was kind enough to free that username 
after my request as it was dormant for more than a year. Cybersquatting 
names doesn't pay on Github!
GrahamC
5-Jun-2013
[8194]
Was that one of my accounts?
Arnold
6-Jun-2013
[8195]
One good thing about Github :)
Pekr
6-Jun-2013
[8196]
Red is now part of list of programming languages - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_programming_languages
DocKimbel
6-Jun-2013
[8197x2]
Great! Thanks. :-)
Feel free to also update the Red page itself.
Pekr
6-Jun-2013
[8199]
well, not sure my English is OK for that :-) Nor do I feel technically 
skilled, to claim anything about the language and its characteristics 
....
DocKimbel
6-Jun-2013
[8200x3]
You can look at how other similar pages are filled and add some sections, 
like an HelloWorld example in Red and Red/System.
Can anyone see a [Close] button on this page? https://github.com/dockimbel/Red/issues/484


Seems like a bug, or has Github changed once again their UI and hide 
the close action somewhere else?
Doh! I'm still logged under my new `red` account...ignore my above 
question.
Pekr
6-Jun-2013
[8203]
Doc, in your last ticket fix example: mp1/mp-digit: allocate 10 ---- 
where does 'allocate comes from? Can't find it in docs. Or is that 
just out of context example, and 'allocate is some wrapper to 'malloc?
DocKimbel
6-Jun-2013
[8204x2]
It's part of Red/System runtime library which is undocumented so 
far. Some of the contributors have made some extraction tools to 
generate automatic docs, but none of the initiative has reached a 
usable state...
`allocate` function is currently just mapped to malloc(), my intention 
was to make a native fine-tuned implementation for Red/System, but 
as it's very low priority, it won't happen soon.
Pekr
6-Jun-2013
[8206]
OK, thanks! Looking forward to further progress and First Red android 
APK example relase :-)
DocKimbel
6-Jun-2013
[8207]
Me too. :-)
Arnold
6-Jun-2013
[8208x2]
If you are not sure of your english being good enough, well go ahead 
and just do edit the site and we will tell you what can be approved. 
Nothing held against you! Happy to see a little more life (or is 
it live) on the site. together we can do more than on our own. It 
takes just some initiative now and then.
What about a youtube channel for Red? (Could also be a Youtube channel 
that is also for REBOL)
Kaj
6-Jun-2013
[8210]
There are YT movies from the conferences. Someone could make a new 
playlist out of them
Arnold
6-Jun-2013
[8211]
I could try to do something like that, but it will be a playlist 
under my account, not very findable/ related to REBOL/Red
Kaj
6-Jun-2013
[8212]
That depends who links to it. Someone collected a Syllable playlist 
and I linked to it from our front page
Bas
6-Jun-2013
[8213x2]
There allready is a Red-playlist: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL595BBBBC4CD91581
If movies should be added, please menton it here?
DocKimbel
8-Jun-2013
[8215x2]
Red/Java bridge is now working properly on Linux/ARM too: http://static.red-lang.org/java-bridge-arm.png
I use a Linux/ARM image running on QEMU to help me debug the low-level 
parts of Android port (which is a really hostile environment for 
low-level coding).
Gregg
8-Jun-2013
[8217]
Congratulations Doc!
Pekr
8-Jun-2013
[8218]
Great, once getting home, will publish screenshot to FB ...
DocKimbel
8-Jun-2013
[8219x2]
Got a simple HelloWorld text displayed in an Android native window 
using the emulator with an x86 image. Working on the ARM version 
now.
The current Red bridge stores too many Java objects references currently, 
it's ok on desktop platforms, but Android has much lower limitations, 
so I need to redesign the Red/Java bridge to lower the number of 
references kept.