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[#Red] Red language group
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Bo 5-Jun-2013 [8189] | The opposite of Red in reflective color is Green, and in additive and subtractive color systems is Cyan. |
Geomol 5-Jun-2013 [8190] | I was thinking blue and red pills. :) |
Bo 5-Jun-2013 [8191] | Now I understand. I was being too much "science" and not enough "fiction". |
DocKimbel 5-Jun-2013 [8192x2] | I took over the red account on Github: https://github.com/red:-) |
Fortunately, github's helpdesk was kind enough to free that username after my request as it was dormant for more than a year. Cybersquatting names doesn't pay on Github! | |
GrahamC 5-Jun-2013 [8194] | Was that one of my accounts? |
Arnold 6-Jun-2013 [8195] | One good thing about Github :) |
Pekr 6-Jun-2013 [8196] | Red is now part of list of programming languages - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_programming_languages |
DocKimbel 6-Jun-2013 [8197x2] | Great! Thanks. :-) |
Feel free to also update the Red page itself. | |
Pekr 6-Jun-2013 [8199] | well, not sure my English is OK for that :-) Nor do I feel technically skilled, to claim anything about the language and its characteristics .... |
DocKimbel 6-Jun-2013 [8200x3] | You can look at how other similar pages are filled and add some sections, like an HelloWorld example in Red and Red/System. |
Can anyone see a [Close] button on this page? https://github.com/dockimbel/Red/issues/484 Seems like a bug, or has Github changed once again their UI and hide the close action somewhere else? | |
Doh! I'm still logged under my new `red` account...ignore my above question. | |
Pekr 6-Jun-2013 [8203] | Doc, in your last ticket fix example: mp1/mp-digit: allocate 10 ---- where does 'allocate comes from? Can't find it in docs. Or is that just out of context example, and 'allocate is some wrapper to 'malloc? |
DocKimbel 6-Jun-2013 [8204x2] | It's part of Red/System runtime library which is undocumented so far. Some of the contributors have made some extraction tools to generate automatic docs, but none of the initiative has reached a usable state... |
`allocate` function is currently just mapped to malloc(), my intention was to make a native fine-tuned implementation for Red/System, but as it's very low priority, it won't happen soon. | |
Pekr 6-Jun-2013 [8206] | OK, thanks! Looking forward to further progress and First Red android APK example relase :-) |
DocKimbel 6-Jun-2013 [8207] | Me too. :-) |
Arnold 6-Jun-2013 [8208x2] | If you are not sure of your english being good enough, well go ahead and just do edit the site and we will tell you what can be approved. Nothing held against you! Happy to see a little more life (or is it live) on the site. together we can do more than on our own. It takes just some initiative now and then. |
What about a youtube channel for Red? (Could also be a Youtube channel that is also for REBOL) | |
Kaj 6-Jun-2013 [8210] | There are YT movies from the conferences. Someone could make a new playlist out of them |
Arnold 6-Jun-2013 [8211] | I could try to do something like that, but it will be a playlist under my account, not very findable/ related to REBOL/Red |
Kaj 6-Jun-2013 [8212] | That depends who links to it. Someone collected a Syllable playlist and I linked to it from our front page |
Bas 6-Jun-2013 [8213x2] | There allready is a Red-playlist: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL595BBBBC4CD91581 |
If movies should be added, please menton it here? | |
DocKimbel 8-Jun-2013 [8215x2] | Red/Java bridge is now working properly on Linux/ARM too: http://static.red-lang.org/java-bridge-arm.png |
I use a Linux/ARM image running on QEMU to help me debug the low-level parts of Android port (which is a really hostile environment for low-level coding). | |
Gregg 8-Jun-2013 [8217] | Congratulations Doc! |
Pekr 8-Jun-2013 [8218] | Great, once getting home, will publish screenshot to FB ... |
DocKimbel 8-Jun-2013 [8219x6] | Got a simple HelloWorld text displayed in an Android native window using the emulator with an x86 image. Working on the ARM version now. |
The current Red bridge stores too many Java objects references currently, it's ok on desktop platforms, but Android has much lower limitations, so I need to redesign the Red/Java bridge to lower the number of references kept. | |
Ok, works fine from ARM emulator and Android 2.3.3. | |
First HelloWorld Android app done with Red: http://static.red-lang.org/hello.apk | |
It uses the Red/System level bridge for now (but from Red), until I redesign the Red-level bridge. | |
This APK was generated from Eclipse using a minimal Java loader class. Red will of course provide a simple solution for creating APK package without having to install Eclipse or the Android SDK (though the emulators are still usefull for testing). | |
sqlab 9-Jun-2013 [8225] | I know this is probably far away But is there an estimation when concurrency will be included in Red or Red/System. Are there plans to include support for gpu computing? It could happen that I need that in futiure. |
DocKimbel 9-Jun-2013 [8226] | Concurrency: yes, once we add object!, errors handling and I/O. So probably not before fall of this year. I also want to support GPGPU computing, but that will probably be in the selfhosted Red 2.0. |
sqlab 9-Jun-2013 [8227] | thanks, maybe it is in time. |
GrahamC 9-Jun-2013 [8228x2] | when is fall ? |
for me that finished 8 days ago | |
DocKimbel 9-Jun-2013 [8230] | Autumn. |
Pekr 9-Jun-2013 [8231] | Doc - my droid phone is in repair centre (touch layer stopped to work), so can't test it, but - is current version resource hungry? (re "too many Java objects" ...) |
DocKimbel 9-Jun-2013 [8232x5] | It's not visible for the user, it matters for the OS, because of low JNI references limitation. |
It's not "too many Java objects", it's too many JNI object references. | |
JNI has a limit of 512 max object references. | |
(on Android) | |
Pekr: you can test it here: https://www.manymo.com/emulators But the Hello app exits immediatly, not sure it's a bug or related to their emulator. | |
Arnold 9-Jun-2013 [8237] | @Graham, thank for reminding Red is a real global project now ;) |
DocKimbel 9-Jun-2013 [8238] | I've reduced the size of the package, now hello.apk weights just 153KB. |
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