World: r4wp

@Arnold ..I guess Autumn in Europe is 6 months after here so November?

It writes - unfortunatelly, hello has stopped ...

Yes, but I'm not sure why as it works fine on 2.3.3 and 4.2.2 on 
the emulator and 2.3.5 on my HTC.

I wonder if they use x86 emulator images instead of ARM ones...would 
makes sense performance-wise.

@Graham, sep/oct/nov, so when Doc writes probably before autumn, 
I hope it will be a cold summer and maybe concurrency will be here 
by august.

Arnold: the devcon in July will suck up a lot of my coding time, 
as I need to prepare the presentation and that's something I'm very 
slow at.

What's your presentation going to be one?

one => on?

Manymo: bingo! That was that, it uses x86 images, I compiled one 
for the tests:
http://static.red-lang.org/hello-x86.apk

So, this one is for the emulator?

@GrahamC, I will probably focus on some Red internals like how to 
achieve symbolic code execution in a hybrid compiler/interpreter.

Going to answer Carl's queries?

It's one for the x86 version of the emulators (you need Intel Atom 
images) and for Manymo (the online emulator).

As far as I can, yes.

Where's the Arm version?

I also plan to bring a surprize, if I can make it in time.

ARM: the first hello.apk link above.

I mean .. I think Bo mentioned that Carl had some questions .. .list 
somewhere...

I remember one specific question, but not the details. Bo will know 
for sure. Doc - we like surprises :-)

* He had a lot of technical questions about Red.  He was wondering 
how Doc overcame (or planned to overcome) some technical hurdles, 
like how he would handle compiling symbolic Rebol code.  He said 
he had no doubt Doc could overcome those hurdles ...

Have to cross post links to SO chat since I can then read them directly 
on the Nexus 7 whereas I don't know how long it takes for links here 
to make it

Very slow in making presentations? http://www.rebol.org/view-script.r?script=presenter.r

Well I know all about that, making a decent presentation takes a 
lot of time.

I've added a few more wishes to the Red/System V2.0 wish list. If 
you have any comments please let me know.


Please remember these are wishes for Nenad to consider, not firm 
proposals.

The hello world app tested OK on my Galaxy Nexus with 4.2.2.

Good! Thanks for testing.

Good to see nothing is rejected yet ;)

For completeness I add the link to the wish list, it is here https://github.com/dockimbel/Red/wiki/Red-System-v2-Wish-List

A designer knows he has achieved perfection not when there is nothing 
left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away.
 -Antoine de Saint-Exupery

I will settle for less perfect but with a lot of possibilities ;)
perfection = not making errors , making no errors = do nothing

Sqlab, for many purposes, you can already do concurrency in Red and 
Red/System if you do it with the 0MQ framework. See for example the 
ventilator demo:

http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/Red-ZeroMQ-binding/dir?ci=tip&name=examples

Hi Doc, congratulations for this new landmark. As the hello.apk generated 
in the past from Red/System was not running for my Galaxy tab 10.1 
was not running, I expected the new apk release not running too and 
it is effectively not running here opn this machine, even  if I upgraded 
to Android 4.0.4 recently - so the problem is located under the Android 
level - as I had expected it too. May be the op cpodes generated 
are not the ones expected on my machine - that is they are not currently 
compatioble with the ones you generated - but I have no time to test 
it. this was just to keep you informed so others know this too... 
Don't bother with this case as I plan to get another Android device 
in the next few months to compare the compatibility of the product. 
Probably the CPU codes are not athe level you deliver them (ARM v5 
if I remember correctly ?)  Best regards.

Gerard - Galaxy Tab is prestigious product, it should run imo ...

Gerard, thanks for reporting it. Galaxy Tab uses Tegra2 chipset, 
so an ARM Cortex-A9 CPU, I see no reason why it shouldn't work with 
ARMv5 code... Are you sure you've tested with hello.apk and not hello-x86.apk?

Gerard, can you install this app on your Galaxy Tab: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.jtb.alogcat&hl=en


Once hello.apk has crashed, just switch to this app, and send me 
the logs by email.

Kaj, thanks for the example

OK Doc I'll try it later as I must go to work now and I'll send it 
back results to you later. Thanks

Congrats on the Android release Doc - very exciting!  (sorry, I've 
been away from AltMe for a while)

Thanks Nick, more to come soon. :-)

I just test hello.apk on Samsung S3 Galaxy Android 2.3.6, it works 
well. Great work Doc!

Hi Doc, I just sent you my log results to your red-lang.org email 
account - thanks - it seems the device is unable to locate the sdram 
card since there is no such sdcard on this device and no slot to 
put one too... may be there is another place to send files but I 
never looked at it and so I don't know where to send my files - the 
device is just using his own directories by itself and I never bothered 
about it until now ... I will have to look further to help you in 
this way.

@Doc : I just sent back my unfiltered log results for the Samsung 
Galaxy tab 10.1 machine - thanks and best regards

I am runing %red.r for %0MQ-request-client.red but failing on 
#include %../common/common.red
It looks like it would be from 
https://github.com/dockimbel/Red.git
but I don't find any common/ directory

I am probably mis-aligning my zmq directories but don't have anything 
but common.reds from clones.
Any hints to help me find my path?

I don't think that common.red is from the main Red repo. I suspect 
it's one of Kaj's libraries.

That's correct

All bindings follow the same naming. The common repository is here:

http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/Red-common

It's easier to download all bindings together with the download.r 
script:

http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/Red-test/dir?ci=tip

On my Nexus 7, the hello.apk comes up with a main screen that has 
"hello" in the top bar. Is that correct? To exit it, you have to 
swipe the app away. It does not respond to a return/escape.

Thanks I will catch up soon.