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DocKimbel 10-Jun-2013 [8271x2] | Gerard, thanks for reporting it. Galaxy Tab uses Tegra2 chipset, so an ARM Cortex-A9 CPU, I see no reason why it shouldn't work with ARMv5 code... Are you sure you've tested with hello.apk and not hello-x86.apk? |
Gerard, can you install this app on your Galaxy Tab: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.jtb.alogcat&hl=en Once hello.apk has crashed, just switch to this app, and send me the logs by email. | |
sqlab 10-Jun-2013 [8273] | Kaj, thanks for the example |
Gerard 10-Jun-2013 [8274] | OK Doc I'll try it later as I must go to work now and I'll send it back results to you later. Thanks |
NickA 10-Jun-2013 [8275] | Congrats on the Android release Doc - very exciting! (sorry, I've been away from AltMe for a while) |
DocKimbel 10-Jun-2013 [8276] | Thanks Nick, more to come soon. :-) |
Endo 10-Jun-2013 [8277] | I just test hello.apk on Samsung S3 Galaxy Android 2.3.6, it works well. Great work Doc! |
Gerard 10-Jun-2013 [8278] | Hi Doc, I just sent you my log results to your red-lang.org email account - thanks - it seems the device is unable to locate the sdram card since there is no such sdcard on this device and no slot to put one too... may be there is another place to send files but I never looked at it and so I don't know where to send my files - the device is just using his own directories by itself and I never bothered about it until now ... I will have to look further to help you in this way. |
Gerard 11-Jun-2013 [8279] | @Doc : I just sent back my unfiltered log results for the Samsung Galaxy tab 10.1 machine - thanks and best regards |
MikeL 11-Jun-2013 [8280] | I am runing %red.r for %0MQ-request-client.red but failing on #include %../common/common.red It looks like it would be from https://github.com/dockimbel/Red.git but I don't find any common/ directory I am probably mis-aligning my zmq directories but don't have anything but common.reds from clones. Any hints to help me find my path? |
PeterWood 11-Jun-2013 [8281] | I don't think that common.red is from the main Red repo. I suspect it's one of Kaj's libraries. |
Kaj 11-Jun-2013 [8282x5] | That's correct |
All bindings follow the same naming. The common repository is here: | |
http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/Red-common | |
It's easier to download all bindings together with the download.r script: | |
http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/Red-test/dir?ci=tip | |
james_nak 11-Jun-2013 [8287] | On my Nexus 7, the hello.apk comes up with a main screen that has "hello" in the top bar. Is that correct? To exit it, you have to swipe the app away. It does not respond to a return/escape. |
MikeL 11-Jun-2013 [8288] | Thanks I will catch up soon. |
Gerard 11-Jun-2013 [8289x2] | @james_nak : this is exactly what I get on my Galaxy tab 10.1 and I suspected it was not correctly executing since I doubt it is doing what is expected - even if I don't really know about the app ! |
@Doc : Can you tell us what was really expected as the normal behaviour for this Hello.apk app ? | |
Pekr 11-Jun-2013 [8291] | before Doc does so, I expect him to release some new improved version :-) |
Arnold 11-Jun-2013 [8292] | @Gerard, you make me very curious to what you expected Hello.apk should do. I think it plays a Lionel Richie song! ;) |
Gerard 11-Jun-2013 [8293x2] | @Arnold and Pekr : What is the current behaviour of the Hello.apk ? I thought it was displaying some welcome msg and then askin for some input before disappearing gracefully. Now on my machine a while screen is displayed with a "Hello" as its window name and nothing else is going on.... For the previous Red/System Hello, something almost similar was going on too. So it's not for the Red part fault but it is due to the lower layer ... I knew this but I can't diagnose what ios coming myself as I'm missing some vital knowlwdge here to be really helpful to debug anything ... on my own - sorry for having acquired some product in the first pioneers just to test how this kind of product was running on Android. I required some Flash and my Apple products just could'nt do it - but my tablet Android tablet was much slower on display than my iDevices. Hope that under Red and Red/System there will be some products running at full speed - if not I plan to let it go at a real bargain price very soon ... to get some more powerful device ASAP. |
When I talk about spped it's related to display and GUI ... | |
Pekr 11-Jun-2013 [8295] | Gerard - don't know, my HTC phone is being in the repair centre (touch layer not working) - just today received sms, that is it ready. I will have it back over the weekend ... |
Andreas 11-Jun-2013 [8296] | Now on my machine a while screen is displayed with a Hello" as its window name and nothing else is going on...." Gerard, that's exactly what the current hello.apk is supposed to do. |
james_nak 11-Jun-2013 [8297] | OK, thanks. That's all I needed to know. |
Gerard 11-Jun-2013 [8298] | Me too - thanks Andreas - So I regretfully missed the point basing my view on the previous Red/System Hello.apk. - Really Sorry Doc for this misconception. Just thinking that I should have looked at the source code instead of being like a blind - asking unuseful questions. I'll take note as to not disturbing anybody in this way in the future.... |
DocKimbel 11-Jun-2013 [8299] | This is what you should get when running hello.apk: http://static.red-lang.org/hello-droid.png |
Andreas 11-Jun-2013 [8300] | Just in case: I don't see the "Hello Android World from Red!" text on a Nexus 4. |
Luis 11-Jun-2013 [8301x2] | Only Hello on windows name on Notus II too |
Notus = Galaxy Note II | |
Gerard 11-Jun-2013 [8303x3] | @Doc : So the text msg is really missing - only the Window's name is appearing on my device - Phew !!! I was not disrturbing you for nothing at least! Hope the last log results could help a bit - but don't stress too much if your time is limited (rare) and I suppose it is .... thanks for the screen capture you sent. |
This fact seems to show that Samsung really is doing things in a non standard way ... at a very low level may be !!! | |
And for most of their devices based on Android - or may be the same chipset - but I don't really know about the specific internals... of their devices ! | |
Kaj 11-Jun-2013 [8306] | How hard would it be to have Red generate .SYS Windows drivers? |
DocKimbel 12-Jun-2013 [8307x3] | Gerard, it's most probably a faulty apk, we'll see with the next demo. |
SYS: It seems that not much is required to add to the PE file itself, I see no additional sections needed. However, it requires a proper checksum in the header. That checksum is either calculated using Windows API or the algorithm could be implemented directly in Rebol. In the first case, it shouldn't take more than an hour to add support to it, in second case a day or two. The main issue would be to find a simple way to test it once generated? Any idea? | |
Andreas: was your Nexus4 running 4.2.2? | |
AdrianS 12-Jun-2013 [8310] | Nenad, I only had the window title as well, on the Galaxy Nexus with 4.2.2 - thought that was all that was expected. |
DocKimbel 12-Jun-2013 [8311x2] | I just tested the hello.apk (downloading from the Red site) on an emulated 4.2.2 and it works fine. So, it looks like the Android emulator is not as reliable as it seems. |
Gerard, found the native crash dump info in your log file, thanks! We'll give it another try with the new bridge version once ready (this week). | |
Gerard 12-Jun-2013 [8313] | Thanks Doc. |
Kaj 12-Jun-2013 [8314x2] | I have an example Windows driver that would be interesting to port to Red/System, so that could be a test case |
I guess a 32 bit driver wouldn't work on 64 bit Windows? | |
DocKimbel 12-Jun-2013 [8316] | Hmm, I'm not sure. |
Kaj 12-Jun-2013 [8317] | It would be great if it would; then I could surely use the Red route |
DocKimbel 12-Jun-2013 [8318] | I wonder how do you make the testing process simple and straighforward for a Windows driver. |
Kaj 12-Jun-2013 [8319] | The driver I inherited is a simple file filter driver, so it fits in the existing Windows infrastructure and it could potentially be almost empty |
DocKimbel 12-Jun-2013 [8320] | I'm not sure that you can just change a driver file "in place" after each recompilation. I'm wondering if you need to deinstall the old one and install the new one each time... |
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