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[#Red] Red language group

Pekr
9-Jul-2013
[9411x2]
well, should I let there even @BeagleBoneBlack? Will not the other 
community mind?
OK, you already retweeted, so I will let it be like it is for now 
...
Kaj
9-Jul-2013
[9413]
I suppose they will like having another programming language
DocKimbel
9-Jul-2013
[9414x5]
BTW, Red is not present on Wikipedia list of programming languages.
BTW, Red is not present on Wikipedia list of programming languages.
Sorry for the double post, I'm on 3G in a bus. ;-)
I'm travelling to the capital to get my plane tomorrow morning for 
Montreal (wih a short stop in Paris).
Also the Red wikipedia page could be updated. It could be more informative. 
Anyone to improve it?
Pekr
9-Jul-2013
[9419x2]
Red was there! I added it, and even later, someone reported, that 
it can be found there.
Red - well, what list are you talking about? I checked http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_programming_languages
and it is present there ....
Kaj
9-Jul-2013
[9421]
Perhaps the Montenegran version :-)
Maxim
9-Jul-2013
[9422]
its not there in the French version.
AdrianS
9-Jul-2013
[9423x2]
Nenad, is this any use or is it outdated?
http://www.godevtool.com/Other/pdb.htm
also this - both articles reference the book "Undocumented Windows 
2000 Secrets: A Programmer's Cookbook":
http://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=22685
DocKimbel
9-Jul-2013
[9425x3]
Pekr: indeed, I wonder how did I miss it...
Kaj: good idea, I'll make a montenegrin version of that page, with 
*only* Red! ;-)
AdrianS: thanks, it's reverse-engineered, so, maybe not fully accurate 
and complete, but it  looks like a good start.
Pekr
9-Jul-2013
[9428]
Doc - not sure about debugging driver priority, but bear in mind, 
that ppl are waiting for networking and other IO ... e.g. Maarten 
was asking today, when it comes. I think that we need more feature 
complete Red ASAP ...
DocKimbel
9-Jul-2013
[9429]
debugging driver priority

 Not sure if you're mixing things here or not. First PDB has nothing 
 to do with drivers, it's a general-debugging help for Red and Red/System. 
 Second, I never said that drivers or PDB support was prioritary. 
 If I worked on adding driver support for Windows, it was just to 
 help Kaj and Bo use Red in their project, nothing else. The priorities 
 are clear, but I won't be able to resume on them until I get back 
 from Montréal.
PeterWood
9-Jul-2013
[9430]
I'll add the /deep to %build-arm-tests.r Pekr (Runnable dir is required 
and built by quick-test.r)

I'll also suspend the function tests from the Arm build.
Pekr
9-Jul-2013
[9431]
Yes, I mixed it incorrectly. Priorities are surely your call, I am 
just reporting what I can anticipate from ppl asking question here 
or there, and the message is - more complete Red. So - looking forward 
to resumed Red development ...
DocKimbel
9-Jul-2013
[9432x2]
I've just lost a long post I was typing here because my finger ripped 
on the small laptop keyboard from a CTRL-S to CTRL-Q...who the hell 
got the bright idea to put the app killing (no confirm prompt) key 
close to the post sending key?...Will have a few words with Carl 
about ergonomy in AltME. ;-)
Peter: no need to disable function tests, I've already commented 
the few tests related to #420 that were causing the crashings.
Paul
9-Jul-2013
[9434]
Sorry Doc on the pdb thing.  I don't think your going to find a pdb 
file format.  Closest I seen was this that someone may have been 
trying to reverse engineer https://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=22685.
DocKimbel
9-Jul-2013
[9435]
Paul: thanks, AdrianS posted a similar link above. Yes, it seems 
that it's not documented.
Kaj
9-Jul-2013
[9436x2]
Well, MS not wanting people to debug their software explains a lot
With Red, you'll be able to debug your programs on the other platforms, 
before running them on Windows
Kaj
10-Jul-2013
[9438x2]
I see the WinDLL and DarwinSO targets in config.r are now uncommented, 
but LinSO is stil commented out. How do they relate to the -dlib 
compiler parameter now?
Wouldn't it be possible to add MSDOS-ARM and Darwin-ARM targets right 
now, to start testing on Windows Phone and iOS?
Luis
10-Jul-2013
[9440]
The red APK builder script build.r attempt to download some files 
i.e. http://static.red-lang.org/droid-tools/jli.dll.But only gets 
404 Page not found...
Kaj
10-Jul-2013
[9441]
For which platform are you building?
Luis
10-Jul-2013
[9442]
Android
Kaj
10-Jul-2013
[9443]
Sorry, I mean on which operating system
Luis
10-Jul-2013
[9444]
On Windows
Kaj
10-Jul-2013
[9445]
That should be supported. Have you retried?
Luis
10-Jul-2013
[9446x2]
Yes, you can make clicl on my example
click ..
Kaj
10-Jul-2013
[9448]
How can you click? You said it didn't work
Luis
10-Jul-2013
[9449]
here:  http://static.red-lang.org/droid-tools/jli.dll
Kaj
10-Jul-2013
[9450]
OK, Doc will have to look if something is wrong with the script or 
with his server
Luis
10-Jul-2013
[9451]
Oops, old build.r version. Thanks Kaj.
Kaj
10-Jul-2013
[9452]
Always update to the latest Red code for new features
Luis
10-Jul-2013
[9453]
Yes as build.r  with multi OS support  !!
Arie
12-Jul-2013
[9454]
@Doc What a nice syntax for poiinter dereferencing in Red/System! 
Well done.
DocKimbel
17-Jul-2013
[9455x2]
Encapped Red on Windows preview: http://static.red-lang.org/encapped.png
Arie: thanks!
Gregg
17-Jul-2013
[9457]
Woohoo! But...does it run? ;-)
DocKimbel
17-Jul-2013
[9458]
It does, but does not blend! ;-)
Gregg
17-Jul-2013
[9459]
That's really excitiing Doc.
DocKimbel
17-Jul-2013
[9460]
I was thinking you would be happy with that move. As the newcomers 
keep showing up on Red, it's time to make it closer to the final 
form.