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LZ77 could replace RLE. It would do RLE + patterns compression

I don't think it would be hard to code with parse

Agreed. Not that many repetive runs of characters in string data, 
so a better compression method would be preferable.

RLE is better for image data. Any takers?

I've some code when I studied 8bit computer data crunchers

But I didn't use parse at that time

RLE might help for binary data too, including that reduced encoding 
I mentioned for strings above.

Thanks for that Ladislav (median calculation)

>> do http://reb4.me/r/altjson.r
connecting to: reb4.me
Script: "REBOL <-> JSON" (15-Jul-2011)
>> j: to-json make object! [ b: none ]
== {{"b":null}}

but when you submit this as a JSON parameter ... it fails

Javascript produces the exact same output:

> JSON.stringify({b:null});
'{"b":null}'

so, the problem has to be somewhere else.

well, I can "fix it" by removing the surrounding { }

Just not sure why this is happening

{"b":null} is the actual value
{{"b":null}} is Rebol's way of telling us it's a string

BrianH: the last rle function above is for R3?

Yes. It uses the IF and QUOTE operations, SET working on string parsing, 
PARSE default /all, :x meaning GET/any 'x, REDUCE/into, and equality 
finctions handling unset! values.

Hm, that's a lot of differences

If you are doing anything in PARSE, or generating blocks, or a wide 
variety of other things, it almost always pays off to do it in R3 
if you can, rather than R2 or any of the other REBOL-alikes except 
maybe Topaz. Topaz has a few PARSE enhancements that R3 could use, 
but the rest don't even come close; there are so many bugs in R2 
that need to be worked around that code for it can be quite different. 
Unfortunately, other factors can prevent people from using R3. Hopefully 
when Red itself is developed, not just Red/System, it will adopt 
the changes that we made for R3.

I'd love to see the Topaz PARSE enhancements in Red too :)

Gabriele has done a great job of reimplementing many of R3's PARSE 
enhancements in R2 using rule generators. If you're stuck on R2 or 
REBOL-alikes with R2-like behavior, that's a good place to start. 
It also helps to look at the parse project page, since there are 
a lot of code equivalent examples in the proposals there. That way 
you can translate your rules manually, and in some cases get faster 
rules as a result. Be careful with unset! vlaues though since there 
are a lot of bugs and limitations to R2's unset value handling, as 
demonstrated in the R2 RLE code above.

Brian, it's so nice to have a Parse expert here. Thanks for your 
advice.

Just for fun :)

It's no fun when you can' t figure out why something you think should 
work doesn't :-)

Really though, you are probably one of the few who really know Parse.

Speaking of Parse. I think it could be useful to compile some kind 
of FAQ or even better a tips&tricks doc.

Graham, wait, are you using MOLD on the output? The surrounding { 
} are as much in there as the surrounding ' ' in the JS output.

Nope ... no mold

Amazon SWF holds the connection open for 60 seconds to allow events 
to appear.  This times out my http(s) connections though.  I tried 
setting system/schemes/timeout to 60 but that doesn't work??

system/schemes/default/timeout

Tried setting system/schemes/http/timeout too?

or rather system/schemses/https/timeout

Yes

put it higher than 60 seconds?...  we have tcp connections open for 
45 minutes so I don't think  REBOL is at fault ...  note that you 
have to set the default timeouts before you start opening ports (I 
assume you did this ;-).

just using the default http scheme ....

What odes this function: http://synapse-ehr.com/community/threads/what-does-this-function-do.1538/
 ?

Two things:

- It iterates through a range of numbers by step, sort of like FOR, 
returning the new value.

- It saves the state of these iterations in a block that is local 
to the function, which it calls "stack" even though it is not a stack.

Here's the function commented:

iter: func [idx start end step  /local stack][

 stack: head []  ; Saved iteration states, persistently updated, indexed 
 by idx
	; Prefill with none through idx
	while [tail? stack: at head stack idx] [insert tail stack none]
	; Initialize iteration state to end value
	if stack/1 = none [stack/1: end ]
	; Increment by step
	stack/1: stack/1 + step
	; If we've gone past the end, rotate back to the start
	if stack/1 > end [stack/1: start]
	; Return the current value of the iteration
	stack/1
]

And optimized/simplified:

iter: func [idx start end step /local stack][

 stack: []  ; head unnecessary, the inline value is at its head already

 insert/dup tail stack none idx - length? stack  ; faster than while

 stack: at stack idx  ; will succeed now, position doesn't persist 
 between calls

 stack/1: step + any [stack/1 end]  ; initialize and increment in 
 one step
	if stack/1 > end [stack/1: start]
	stack/1
]


Note that the function doesn't work if idx, start and end aren't 
numbers, start isn't less than end, and step isn't greater than 1. 
However, all of the code that calls it has these qualities.

Hi, I would have used stack: copy []  but this is not necessary here? 
Because stack is local?

If you use COPY it won't persist between function calls.

It is stil confusing (to me) because the variable 'stack' is declared 
to be a local variable.

stack: []  ; head unnecessary, the inline value is at its head already
 - are you sure?

aha, yes, it is correct

It is stil confusing (to me) because the variable 'stack' is declared 
to be a local variable.
 - more confusing is that it is not a stack as Brian pointed out

Arnold, 'stack is local to the function.  Ordinarily you would make 
a copy each time the function is called so that you have an empty 
new block.  But here the function does not so that the block contents 
are available unchanged between calls.

So, I guess my question is .. when do local variables get garbage 
collected?

When do local variables get garbage collected?
 - never, only in case they are not accessible

,i.e. only in case the function is collected

however, the STACK local variable is actually not just "local variable", 
it is a value in the function body. In this case the only way how 
the value could be collected is to collect the function

so you would have to unset the function ?  Or just set it to none?

However, the function looks strange to me. I guess that it should 
have been implemented differently.