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GrahamC 14-Aug-2012 [819] | but when you submit this as a JSON parameter ... it fails |
Gabriele 14-Aug-2012 [820x2] | Javascript produces the exact same output: > JSON.stringify({b:null}); '{"b":null}' |
so, the problem has to be somewhere else. | |
GrahamC 14-Aug-2012 [822x3] | well, I can "fix it" by removing the surrounding { } |
Just not sure why this is happening | |
{"b":null} is the actual value {{"b":null}} is Rebol's way of telling us it's a string | |
Endo 14-Aug-2012 [825] | BrianH: the last rle function above is for R3? |
BrianH 14-Aug-2012 [826] | Yes. It uses the IF and QUOTE operations, SET working on string parsing, PARSE default /all, :x meaning GET/any 'x, REDUCE/into, and equality finctions handling unset! values. |
Kaj 14-Aug-2012 [827] | Hm, that's a lot of differences |
BrianH 14-Aug-2012 [828x3] | If you are doing anything in PARSE, or generating blocks, or a wide variety of other things, it almost always pays off to do it in R3 if you can, rather than R2 or any of the other REBOL-alikes except maybe Topaz. Topaz has a few PARSE enhancements that R3 could use, but the rest don't even come close; there are so many bugs in R2 that need to be worked around that code for it can be quite different. Unfortunately, other factors can prevent people from using R3. Hopefully when Red itself is developed, not just Red/System, it will adopt the changes that we made for R3. |
I'd love to see the Topaz PARSE enhancements in Red too :) | |
Gabriele has done a great job of reimplementing many of R3's PARSE enhancements in R2 using rule generators. If you're stuck on R2 or REBOL-alikes with R2-like behavior, that's a good place to start. It also helps to look at the parse project page, since there are a lot of code equivalent examples in the proposals there. That way you can translate your rules manually, and in some cases get faster rules as a result. Be careful with unset! vlaues though since there are a lot of bugs and limitations to R2's unset value handling, as demonstrated in the R2 RLE code above. | |
james_nak 14-Aug-2012 [831] | Brian, it's so nice to have a Parse expert here. Thanks for your advice. |
BrianH 14-Aug-2012 [832] | Just for fun :) |
james_nak 14-Aug-2012 [833x2] | It's no fun when you can' t figure out why something you think should work doesn't :-) |
Really though, you are probably one of the few who really know Parse. | |
Marco 14-Aug-2012 [835] | Speaking of Parse. I think it could be useful to compile some kind of FAQ or even better a tips&tricks doc. |
Gabriele 15-Aug-2012 [836] | Graham, wait, are you using MOLD on the output? The surrounding { } are as much in there as the surrounding ' ' in the JS output. |
GrahamC 15-Aug-2012 [837] | Nope ... no mold |
GrahamC 16-Aug-2012 [838x2] | Amazon SWF holds the connection open for 60 seconds to allow events to appear. This times out my http(s) connections though. I tried setting system/schemes/timeout to 60 but that doesn't work?? |
system/schemes/default/timeout | |
DocKimbel 16-Aug-2012 [840x2] | Tried setting system/schemes/http/timeout too? |
or rather system/schemses/https/timeout | |
GrahamC 16-Aug-2012 [842] | Yes |
Maxim 16-Aug-2012 [843] | put it higher than 60 seconds?... we have tcp connections open for 45 minutes so I don't think REBOL is at fault ... note that you have to set the default timeouts before you start opening ports (I assume you did this ;-). |
GrahamC 16-Aug-2012 [844] | just using the default http scheme .... |
MaxV 27-Aug-2012 [845] | What odes this function: http://synapse-ehr.com/community/threads/what-does-this-function-do.1538/ ? |
BrianH 27-Aug-2012 [846] | Two things: - It iterates through a range of numbers by step, sort of like FOR, returning the new value. - It saves the state of these iterations in a block that is local to the function, which it calls "stack" even though it is not a stack. Here's the function commented: iter: func [idx start end step /local stack][ stack: head [] ; Saved iteration states, persistently updated, indexed by idx ; Prefill with none through idx while [tail? stack: at head stack idx] [insert tail stack none] ; Initialize iteration state to end value if stack/1 = none [stack/1: end ] ; Increment by step stack/1: stack/1 + step ; If we've gone past the end, rotate back to the start if stack/1 > end [stack/1: start] ; Return the current value of the iteration stack/1 ] And optimized/simplified: iter: func [idx start end step /local stack][ stack: [] ; head unnecessary, the inline value is at its head already insert/dup tail stack none idx - length? stack ; faster than while stack: at stack idx ; will succeed now, position doesn't persist between calls stack/1: step + any [stack/1 end] ; initialize and increment in one step if stack/1 > end [stack/1: start] stack/1 ] Note that the function doesn't work if idx, start and end aren't numbers, start isn't less than end, and step isn't greater than 1. However, all of the code that calls it has these qualities. |
Arnold 27-Aug-2012 [847] | Hi, I would have used stack: copy [] but this is not necessary here? Because stack is local? |
Gregg 27-Aug-2012 [848] | If you use COPY it won't persist between function calls. |
Arnold 27-Aug-2012 [849] | It is stil confusing (to me) because the variable 'stack' is declared to be a local variable. |
Ladislav 27-Aug-2012 [850x3] | stack: [] ; head unnecessary, the inline value is at its head already - are you sure? |
aha, yes, it is correct | |
It is stil confusing (to me) because the variable 'stack' is declared to be a local variable. - more confusing is that it is not a stack as Brian pointed out | |
GrahamC 27-Aug-2012 [853x2] | Arnold, 'stack is local to the function. Ordinarily you would make a copy each time the function is called so that you have an empty new block. But here the function does not so that the block contents are available unchanged between calls. |
So, I guess my question is .. when do local variables get garbage collected? | |
Ladislav 27-Aug-2012 [855x3] | When do local variables get garbage collected? - never, only in case they are not accessible |
,i.e. only in case the function is collected | |
however, the STACK local variable is actually not just "local variable", it is a value in the function body. In this case the only way how the value could be collected is to collect the function | |
GrahamC 27-Aug-2012 [858] | so you would have to unset the function ? Or just set it to none? |
Ladislav 27-Aug-2012 [859x2] | However, the function looks strange to me. I guess that it should have been implemented differently. |
so you would have to unset the function ? - you cannot unset a function. You can only unset the variable referring to it. | |
GrahamC 27-Aug-2012 [861] | yes, that's what I meant |
Maxim 27-Aug-2012 [862] | Arnold, if you are proficient at language C, R2's local word model is the same as static variables in C. |
Ladislav 27-Aug-2012 [863] | E.g. f: func [] [] unset 'f would make the function inaccessible (collectable), but, e.g. g: func [][] g: 1 makes the function inaccessible (collectable) as well |
Maxim 27-Aug-2012 [864] | that wasn't worded how I meant it... |
Ladislav 27-Aug-2012 [865] | R2's local word model is the same as static variables in C. - hmm, there are some significant differences |
Maxim 27-Aug-2012 [866x3] | Arnold, What I meant to say (and what ladislav is trying to say, I think) is that the code inside a function is not Garbage collected, so when a function has a litteral value.. that litteral value is the same at each execution (its static). |
the local values are reset to none at each execution, but they will be re-assigned to the same litteral. | |
(which is why they look like static variables in terms of series which are references) | |
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