World: r4wp

btw, andreas any plans for a tokyo/kyoto extension? if so, I could 
strike this from my todo list otherwise I would start after posix. 
(asking just to avoid double work)

Not at the moment, no.

LevelDB, if anything. But I don't expect to get to that any time 
soon.

After the current build streamlining work, I plan to look into better 
stdio and a more versatile "call" next.

Still should be an extension though, since not everyone is running 
R3 on a server. And definitely if it is limited to server platforms, 
or any platform limits.

yes, call is migthy when proper designed. using os.execute and io.popen 
all the times with lua. highly underestimated for it's capabillities 
but not easy to built.

yeah, is use that all the times as well :)

would be VERY valuable if you could make call better.

Brian, the posix extension is also to refresh my lost C skills (heck, 
I lost half of rebol in only 6 month I was buys with Lua) and I have 
no claim this extension need to run everywhere nor do I want to pollute 
the rebol way. it's just a component to fill some gaps for serverbased 
processing on linux machines.

once released, we can definitely look at making it multi-platform, 
 as much as possible.

Is this a bug in R3?

>> mi: #00000002
== #00000002

>> save %mi.txt mi

** Script error: encode does not allow issue! for its data argument
** Where: if save
** Near: if lib/all [
    not header
    any [file? where url? where]...

Also should load not recognise the literal form of issue!:

In REBOL 2:
>> my-issue: #00000001
== #00000001
>> save %mi.txt my-issue

then in R3:

>> my-issue: load %mi.txt
== "#00000001"

>> type? my-issue
== string!

looks like a bug to me

>> file-type? %mi.txt
== text
>> file-type? %mi.r
== none


Text is considered a file type in R3, like .jpg and such. I think 
it was intentional, though I'm not sure whether we should continue 
to intend this. We should check with Carl.

Anyone know how to use PUT in http?  And how to use write ?

This does a post

to-string write http://www.rebol.net/cgi-bin/r3-echo.r"trest"

http://www.rebol.net/wiki/Scheme:_HTTP

ah .. figured it out from reading the source :)

Amazon now insists that soap requests use https so back to using 
their REST protocol

>> write http://www.rebol.com/index.html[ HEAD ]
== [%/index.html 7407 none]

Shouldn't I get more information than this back?

since this is the trace

HEAD /index.html HTTP/1.0
Accept: */*
Accept-Charset: utf-8
Host: www.rebol.com
User-Agent: REBOL

HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2013 09:03:18 GMT
Server: Apache
Last-Modified: Sat, 15 Dec 2012 07:02:21 GMT
Accept-Ranges: bytes
Content-Type: text/html
Via: 1.1 BC5-ACLD
Content-Length: 7407
Connection: close

There is a bug here


  if headers/last-modified [info/date: attempt [to date! headers/last-modified]]

>> write http://www.rebol.com/index.html[ HEAD ]
make object! [
    name: none
    size: none
    date: none
    type: 'file
    response-line: "HTTP/1.1 200 OK"
    response-parsed: none
    headers: make object! [
        Content-Length: "7407"
        Transfer-Encoding: none
        Last-Modified: "Sat, 15 Dec 2012 07:02:21 GMT"
        Date: "Wed, 09 Jan 2013 09:24:53 GMT"
        Server: "Apache"
        Accept-Ranges: "bytes"
        Content-Type: "text/html"
        Via: "1.1 BC5-ACLD"
        Connection: "close"
    ]
]

But to-date will not work with "Sat, 15 Dec 2012 07:02:21 GMT" so 
info/date gets set to none

There's likely the same bug in 'query wherever that is defined

digit: charset [ #"0" - #"9" ]
alpha: charset [ #"a" - #"z" #"A" - #"Z" ]
idate-to-date: func [ date [string!] /local day month year zone]
[

 either parse date [ 5 skip copy day 2 digit space copy month 3 alpha 
 space copy year 4 digit space copy time to space space copy zone 
 to end ][
		if zone = "GMT" [ zone: copy "+0" ]
		to date! rejoin [ day "-" month "-" year "/" time zone ]
	][ none ]
]


if headers/last-modified [info/date: attempt [ idate-to-date headers/last-modified] 
]
		
seems to work

Hmm.  Will this fail if your locale is not english, and the web server 
is giving dates in enlish?

second load/next/header some-script

^^^^^^^^

In R2, this would get you to the point in a string immediately after 
a Rebol header.  How do you get there in R3? Consider R2:

>> load/next/header "#!/some/path 1foo^/REBOL []^/script here"
== [<header> "^/script here"]

Seemingly using 'script? helps locate "REBOL [" then can just 'transcode/next 
on the block.

enlish => English

Gab, it says here that http 1.1 is partially supported http://www.rebol.net/docs/prot-http.html
 but you still pass 1.0

I don't remember if there was a reason for that

to pass 1.0 ?

yes.

keep in mind, this was something that i did in a couple days IIRC, 
then waited for over a month for Carl to tell me how to proceed.

not sure if port behavior is better defined now

for example, synchronous operations are just a hack, they fail if 
you try to download a larger file as there is a time limit to the 
whole operation.

And nearly 6 years ago

yeah, time flies. :)

Are you intending to do any more work on R3 now that it's OS?

not in the short term, i don't really have time for it. no idea what 
happens long term. :)

And Topaz?

it's higher priority than R3 for me, but i'm not sure if i'll be 
able to work on it in the next 2-3 months. things should settle after 
that though, and hopefully i'll be able to plan again and carve some 
serious time for it.

I can remember that Reb/Service got stuck because of some limitations 
of R3. Not which one it were. So, can we bring R/S back to life? 
Is it worth the effort?

I don't recall - was there a big difficulty in reporting errors more 
accurately in Rebol? It would be nice to have a line number in a 
script. As it is the context given around the error is often pretty 
vague and doesn't help much.

That has been discussed too many times. It's a pity you cannot find 
the discussing in some archive...

err: "discussion"

Adrian, all errors occur in line 1.

I remember some sort of discussion, but I think it was at least a 
couple of years ago on the REBOL3 world - can't log in there any 
longer.

Graham, what do you mean all occur in line 1?