[REBOL] .net Framework
From: jwold::minot::com at: 10-Sep-2000 13:19
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I am to a fan of c#'s design. However note the blatent ripoff's of
Delphi and Pascal concepts.
REBOL's strength is it's ability to be the juggernaut of porting. Imagine
if you have all these compiled scripts rolling around for various
architectures. REBOL has to remain as platform neutral as possible if it is
to succeed. Scripts that run on one machine should be able to run another
etc... If they were compiled at runtime, I could see that. However the
scripts I have been seeing are incredibly small.
A dissapointment on my behalf is that MS simply didn't release the compiler
and whatever libraries they needed to include. They released ASP+ and
various other behemoth things as well. Essentially to get the c# compiler I
had to download 90MB's of .NET (preview) Borland however released it's
latest rev of BCC32 for free.
If there is a lesson in all this madness take an example from
Borland/Inprise, REBOL, PHP... Portability is the key. Note the lack of
the name "Sun Micro." in here. Java is to an extent platform dependant now.
These are going to be the new big players. The only thing that is
hindering this right now is MS's death grip on the computer industry. I
enjoy Win2K and various other products from MS. However, their marketing
strategies border on either Genghis Kahn or Orwellian. Essentially you have
alot of developers out there that are windows bred, not willing to try new
things and are very comfortable with RAD environments such as VB &tc.. It
is taking a while for people to realize there are better ways to do things
than let's say ASP or JSP.
Note: If you wish to flame me Windows or Linux users. Please note I am a
big fan of OpenBSD & Win2K respectively ;) What I am saying is opinion, if
you really don't like it you always have the option of *shock* deleting the
message and or ignoring it.
Jarrett
Snowware
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<DIV><SPAN class=720503917-10092000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2> I am to a fan of c#'s design. However note the blatent
ripoff's of Delphi and Pascal concepts.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2> </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=720503917-10092000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>
REBOL's strength is it's ability to be the juggernaut of porting. Imagine
if you have all these compiled scripts rolling around for various
architectures. REBOL has to remain as platform neutral as possible if it
is to succeed. Scripts that run on one machine should be able to run
another etc... If they were compiled at runtime, I could see that.
However the scripts I have been seeing are incredibly small.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=720503917-10092000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=720503917-10092000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>A
dissapointment on my behalf is that MS simply didn't release the compiler and
whatever libraries they needed to include. They released ASP+ and various
other behemoth things as well. Essentially to get the c# compiler I had to
download 90MB's of .NET (preview) Borland however released it's latest rev of
BCC32 for free.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=720503917-10092000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=720503917-10092000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>
If there is a lesson in all this madness take an example from Borland/Inprise,
REBOL, PHP... Portability is the key. Note the lack of the name "Sun
Micro." in here. Java is to an extent platform dependant
now.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=720503917-10092000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=720503917-10092000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>
These are going to be the new big players. The only thing that is
hindering this right now is MS's death grip on the computer industry. I
enjoy Win2K and various other products from MS. However, their marketing
strategies border on either Genghis Kahn or Orwellian. Essentially you
have alot of developers out there that are windows bred, not willing to try new
things and are very comfortable with RAD environments such as VB &tc..
It is taking a while for people to realize there are better ways to do things
than let's say ASP or JSP.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=720503917-10092000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=720503917-10092000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Note: If you wish to flame me Windows or Linux users. Please
note I am a big fan of OpenBSD & Win2K respectively ;) What I am
saying is opinion, if you really don't like it you always have the option of
*shock* deleting the message and or ignoring it. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=720503917-10092000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=720503917-10092000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Jarrett</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=720503917-10092000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Snowware</FONT></SPAN></DIV></BODY></HTML>
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