Where to find "Style Chapter"?
[1/6] from: isml_smile::hotmail at: 11-May-2007 2:05
I am new to REBOL and trying to read "REBOL/View Developer's Guide". In
Section "5.1. Predefined Styles", it says, "The predefined styles are
listed below. For more information about each of these styles, refer to the
Styles chapter (a separate document). "
What i want to know is where i could find the document.
thanks for any advice
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[2/6] from: gregg:pointillistic at: 10-May-2007 20:19
Hi Hu,
HH> I am new to REBOL and trying to read "REBOL/View Developer's Guide". In
HH> Section "5.1. Predefined Styles", it says, "The predefined styles are
HH> listed below. For more information about each of these styles, refer to the
HH> Styles chapter (a separate document). "
HH> What i want to know is where i could find the document.
I don't think that document exits, at least I've never seen it. Maybe
it did at one point, but has been lost somewhere along the way.
The more recent View graphic system reference doc
(http://www.rebol.com/docs/view-system.html) contains a lot of great
information, but it doesn't talk about the standard styles. The
mailing list index on REBOL.org will also have a lot of good info, but
you'll have to search for it. One of the bigger problems with REBOL is
that docs and community knowledge are scattered various places and not
always easy to find.
You might also look into RebGUI, which is an alternative to VID, and
has excellent docs to go along with it.
If you have specific questions, or even general questions, ask them
here and we might be able to point you in the right direction.
Happy REBOLing!
-- Gregg
[3/6] from: isml_smile:hotma:il at: 11-May-2007 2:33
Thanks to Gregg.
It is true that there are less docs in REBOL than in other language. Maybe
it is because REBOL is much easier to use than any other language:)
Actually i have another question. When i use "send" function to send email,
it fails when my smtp server needs authentication. I wonder if it is a
commercial function.
Thanks for your help.
>From: Gregg Irwin <gregg-pointillistic.com>
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>Hi Hu,
>HH> I am new to REBOL and trying to read "REBOL/View Developer's Guide".
In
>HH> Section "5.1. Predefined Styles", it says, "The predefined styles are
>HH> listed below. For more information about each of these styles, refer
to the
>HH> Styles chapter (a separate document). "
>HH> What i want to know is where i could find the document.
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[4/6] from: gregg:pointillistic at: 10-May-2007 21:09
Hi Hu,
HH> It is true that there are less docs in REBOL than in other language. Maybe
HH> it is because REBOL is much easier to use than any other language:)
REBOL is easy to use...to begin with, but it's also very deep, and not
all the details are doc'd (officially). I think the original Core
manual does a good job, and covers things pretty well, along with the
word-browser/online function reference, you can go a long way. We all
want better docs though, including RT. :)
HH> Actually i have another question. When i use "send" function to send email,
HH> it fails when my smtp server needs authentication. I wonder if it is a
HH> commercial function.
If you put your ESMTP info in %user.r, under the set-net call, it
should work, if you're using a newer release. Older versions just
included SMTP. The last two params to set-net are your ESMTP user and
password (do ? set-net in the console to see all the params). The
Viewtop (built-in desktop) hasn't been updated to include them yet
AFAIK.
-- Gregg
[5/6] from: isml_smile:ho:tmail at: 11-May-2007 3:15
Thanks for your continuous help.
>From: Gregg Irwin <gregg-pointillistic.com>
>Reply-To: rebolist-rebol.com
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>Hi Hu,
>HH> It is true that there are less docs in REBOL than in other language.
Maybe
>HH> it is because REBOL is much easier to use than any other language:)
>REBOL is easy to use...to begin with, but it's also very deep, and not
<<quoted lines omitted: 3>>
>want better docs though, including RT. :)
>HH> Actually i have another question. When i use "send" function to send
email,
>HH> it fails when my smtp server needs authentication. I wonder if it is a
>HH> commercial function.
<<quoted lines omitted: 8>>
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>lists at rebol.com with unsubscribe as the subject.
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[6/6] from: anton::wilddsl::net::au at: 12-May-2007 16:14
I don't remember the "Style Chapter", but here is how to list
all the available VID styles:
print mold extract system/view/vid/vid-styles 2
And you can see a style's entire definition like this:
print mold svv/vid-styles/button
print mold svv/vid-styles/field
; etc..
Getting into your editor can be done like this:
write clipboard:// mold svv/vid-styles/button
then paste into a new document in your editor.
(I use Crimson Editor on Windows, for which there is a rebol
syntax highlighter available.)
This gives you a chance to read exactly how the style
works, and an insight into how to modify it to do what
you want. I do the above steps very frequently when
creating new styles, as I want to see if there is a
built-in style which does close to what I want to
derive from.
Every style can be modified with "facets" (face attributes),
which can be mentioned after a style name in a LAYOUT spec.
These words can be seen here:
print mold remove-each item copy svv/facet-words [function? :item]
So the above words can be applied to all the styles, but
some styles also have a few style-specific dialect words.
Here are the styles with specific dialect words:
foreach [style face] svv/vid-styles [if face/words [print [style
remove-each item copy face/words [function? :item]]]]
To see if the dialect expects any arguments, we do the same except we don't
remove the functions:
foreach [style face] svv/vid-styles [if face/words [print [style mold
face/words]]]
Hope that helps, if you have any more specific questions at all
about how to do something, this is the place to ask.
Regards,
Anton.
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