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Status of SEND function

 [1/8] from: btiffin:rogers at: 30-Apr-2007 21:38


Hi, Before I dig deeper, I thought I'd ask the august members of this list first. What is the status of SEND and the SMTP protocol in regards to ESMTP (authenticated servers in particular) and the 2.7.5 (and other) releases? Cheers, Brian Tiffin

 [2/8] from: gregg::pointillistic::com at: 30-Apr-2007 20:26


Hi Brian, BT> What is the status of SEND and the SMTP protocol in regards to ESMTP BT> (authenticated servers in particular) and the 2.7.5 (and other) releases? I just checked, and I'm still using Cesar's patch, but I don't know if it's required anymore. Gabriele, Graham, or Phil Bevan might know more. -- Gregg

 [3/8] from: santilli::gabriele::gmail::com at: 1-May-2007 13:50


2007/5/1, Gregg Irwin <gregg-pointillistic.com>:
> BT> What is the status of SEND and the SMTP protocol in regards to ESMTP > BT> (authenticated servers in particular) and the 2.7.5 (and other) releases? > > I just checked, and I'm still using Cesar's patch, but I don't know if > it's required anymore. Gabriele, Graham, or Phil Bevan might know > more.
All the functionality in Cesar's patch should already be builtin in 2.7.5. Just use SET-NET to set your ESMTP user name and password. (Note, I don't have a way to test ESMTP with auth, so any testers are welcome.) Regards, Gabriele.

 [4/8] from: btiffin::rogers::com at: 1-May-2007 14:51


Thanks gentlemen, Saved me some poking about time. And Gabriele I report back some tests. Cheers, Brian On Tuesday 01 May 2007 07:50, Gabriele Santilli wrote:

 [5/8] from: btiffin::rogers::com at: 1-May-2007 17:38


Ok, Authenticated ESMTP works with SEND. Except, it exposes a password in set-net block, unless you use 'ask for esmtp user. Cool. Under the conditions of set-net [email host pop proxy-host proxy-port proxy-type 'ask none] send email "test^/another test" prompts three times for username and password. Functional, but not friendly. You only need to type in the information on the last of the three prompts. I didn't try first only, second only combos. After the first, SEND works without prompt. set-net with esmtp user and password strings (not using 'ask none) works but as noted above, exposes a password. It can be buried from simple prying eye passes with trickery of course... set-net compose [ ... "esmtp-user" (to string! decloak #{ABABABABAB} "cloakkey")] works, but it still exposes passwords to the REBOL savvy. Anyway, I can use Phil Bevan's readmail.r to much greater effect now. Thanks for that. REBOL/View 2.7.5.4.2 testing. On Tuesday 01 May 2007 14:51, Brian Tiffin wrote:

 [6/8] from: santilli:gabriele:gm:ail at: 2-May-2007 11:50


2007/5/1, Brian Tiffin <btiffin-rogers.com>:
> prompts three times for username and password. Functional, but not > friendly.
Please make sure this is on RAMBO. You could workaround by asking for the password in user.r or in your application, then using SET-NET without 'ASK. Regards, Gabriele.

 [7/8] from: btiffin:rogers at: 2-May-2007 12:02


Thanks for the tip. One of the trials I did included trapping SEND, prompting and calling SET-NET. I think I'll call SET-NET and set the esmtp-user to 'ask and pass to none after each use of SEND. system/schemes/esmtp may inadvertently show up somewhere, somehow. This is leaps and bounds past previous SEND usability, since the cable modem, and once again, thanks for that. Mr. Chavez's patch was handy, but this is handier. And thanks too to Cesar, his patch once helped me save face when showing off REBOL. I hadn't experienced a need for AUTH, it broke in front of someone, 10 minutes later, the patch was in, worked, and my face was back to its natural, ummm, state...I'll say state. Cheers, Brian On Wednesday 02 May 2007 05:50, Gabriele Santilli wrote:

 [8/8] from: btiffin:rogers at: 2-May-2007 20:57


RAMBO'ed. I put it in as a bug, could be a wish, as it really isn't much more than an annoyance. Please note the wish (in the possible fix section) that the system/schemes/esmtp/pass is stored as 'ASK or at least obfuscated. Cheers, Brian On Wednesday 02 May 2007 05:50, Gabriele Santilli wrote: