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Gabriele 5-Feb-2005 [374] | you have the disadvantage sadi above though... |
Pekr 5-Feb-2005 [375] | Thanks Gabriele. I should mention why I do need it. The problem is, that some big distributors cheat on their sub-distributors. Together with few shops we found out, that although they allow to use their part of portal, some customers are clever, find out what shop it is in reality and they go directly to the parent shop and get the same price as from us. That is indeed bad behavior on their part as their partly ruin our business, but we can't do nothing about it. I will do my own shop, but as a whole system. I will describe architecture later ... |
eFishAnt 5-Feb-2005 [376x2] | are there ANY decent web browsers that can print a page on a sheet without cropping long lines? What is the best way to insure this? (IE, FF, Opera....all rubbish!!!) |
maybe the only solution is to design one in REBOL... | |
Pekr 5-Feb-2005 [378x2] | What is wrong with FF or Mozilla print preview? |
I never got cropped long lines, it should wrap | |
Henrik 5-Feb-2005 [380] | but is printing working properly with Rebol yet? |
eFishAnt 5-Feb-2005 [381x2] | that is something we can do. |
Pekr, anything special in print preview? | |
Pekr 5-Feb-2005 [383] | special? You can see how it will look ... |
eFishAnt 5-Feb-2005 [384] | yes, and in FF it looks like rubbish. The text gets truncated. |
Pekr 5-Feb-2005 [385x2] | Steve - why to be so impulsive? :-) Look, I5 < 5.5 did not even provide print preview! NS had it for ages. I very ocassionally got myself in problem with NS, FF, Mozilla using print preview. |
isn't it in printer driver? What about other websites? Do all get truncated? Maybe FF can't handle the particular one, which may be badly coded? | |
eFishAnt 5-Feb-2005 [387] | ah, but none of it works...FF, IE, NS, Opera...all rubbish. All I want is to print a proof. At least they could get the text right. |
Pekr 5-Feb-2005 [388x2] | Could you post a link to site you want to get printed? |
btw - Carl posted proposition for color-text ... | |
eFishAnt 5-Feb-2005 [390x3] | it is a document I did in Make-doc2.r not for the public yet for another month... |
trying to do landscape...that ALMOST works...what rubbish, these Web Browsers. | |
you would think after 15 or more years they could at least do text right. | |
Pekr 5-Feb-2005 [393] | are you talking about plain text or already converted md document into html? |
Carl 5-Feb-2005 [394] | Hi Steve, I usually just scale it down a bit in the print dialog box. |
eFishAnt 5-Feb-2005 [395] | already made html. |
Carl 5-Feb-2005 [396x3] | For most of the rebol.net docs, I've notice they sometimes clip on the right edge of the printer when using US paper size. |
It's usually due to the size of the banner graphic on the top -- which is just a bit too wide. I need to fix it one of these days or change the way the page is built to not include the graphic in the outermost table. | |
And, there is also the problem that occurs if any code example is too long, pushing out the right margin for the entire doc. I've thought about correcting for that in MD. But, not sure how best to do that (wrap or clip). | |
Graham 5-Feb-2005 [399] | Need a print CSS |
eFishAnt 5-Feb-2005 [400] | yeah...I have done the scaling, sort of a fishy thing to have to do. More of a rhetorical question I was asking...because if Web browsers and Adobe Acrobat were well designed, electronic documentation would be a joy to use...just lots of room for improvement to REBOLutionize the industry. |
Pekr 5-Feb-2005 [401] | There is nothing wrong with Adobe PDF imo ... |
eFishAnt 5-Feb-2005 [402x2] | I will shut up...was just venting...a big pain in computing to solve...perfect literate computing. Before Dynabooks are good, this problem has to be solved. |
I did have code in a box that was rather long. so that will help printing until I design a new Web displayer... | |
Anton 8-Feb-2005 [404x16] | I would like to fix path-thru so it can handle query strings, as links to rebol.org scripts have. eg. http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/download-a-script.r?script-name=slim.r |
Maybe I should rephrase that: I would like to fix NTFS so it can handle "?" in filenames... | |
Anyway, the idea is to map characters in the URL that are unallowed by the local filesystem to something else (probably the hex representation ?) | |
eg. >> http://%3F == http://? | |
This type of mapping could cause collisions (there might be a url with a %3F already in place of the ?) but I think this imperfect system is better than not being able to map at all. | |
So the initial goal for me is just to map the ? character, then later I will see about other non-allowed characters. I think it is ? who is causing all or most of the problem. | |
PATH-THRU currently looks like this: | |
path-thru: func [ "Return a path relative to the disk cache." url /local purl ][ if file? url [return url] if not all [purl: decode-url url purl/host] [return none] rejoin [view-root/public slash purl/host slash any [purl/path ""] any [purl/target ""]] ] | |
So the quick solution seems to be to modify the last line, using REPLACE to change "?" -> "%3F" | |
replace rejoin [view-root/public slash purl/host slash any [purl/path ""] any [purl/target ""]] "?" "%3F" | |
Indeed PATH-THRU seems to work on this url, as well as LOAD-THRU and EXISTS-THRU? (they all rely on PATH-THRU) | |
>> path-thru http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/download-a-script.r?script-name=slim.r == %/D/Anton/Dev/Rebol/View/public/www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/download-a-script.r%3Fscript-name=slim.r >> load-thru http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/download-a-script.r?script-name=slim.r connecting to: www.rebol.org connecting to: www.rebol.org == [ SLiM: make object! [ id: 1 slim-path: what-dir libs: [] paths: [] linked-libs:... >> exists-thru? http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/download-a-script.r?script-name=slim.r == %/D/Anton/Dev/Rebol/View/public/www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/download-a-script.r%3Fscript-name=slim.r | |
So that looks good. Unless anyone has any objections I will post it to RAMBO as a feature request. | |
In future, I think a proper mapping function (probably using PARSE) should be created, and path-thru would use that instead of REPLACE, but until then I think this is a very good and cheap fix. | |
OK, I posted a RAMBO ticket for this. | |
Anyone got any advice on allowability of "?" in filenames on *nix ? | |
Rebolek 8-Feb-2005 [420] | I don't know, but "?" can be used as a wildcard on *nix, so I think it's not supported in filenames (but I've no real experience with *nix) |
Anton 8-Feb-2005 [421x3] | Mmm.. I think (without checking any official specs yet) that the mapping problem is not so bad, because allowed character set for URLs is quite restricted, so it should be smaller than allowed characters on most filesystems. On the other hand, maybe the intersection of allowed characters on all rebol-supported filesystems is actually smaller... |
Kru, as I understood on unix, filenames could contain any ascii characters 0-255, but using characters such as "?" would confuse a lot of programs, so it was avoided. I don't know what the situation is these days.. Maybe they are more restrictive of allowed filenames. | |
Ok, to the google search ! | |
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